Mutual Funds don't update with current closing prices
Even after another MoneyDance update (ver. 2019.0 [1835]), it still can't properly update the closing mutual fund prices. This has been going on for over a year after you stopped using the Yahoo service (I believe that is what was being used?).
As an example I check again today at a mutual fund (T.Rowe Price Blue Chip mutual fund or TRBCX) and it shows the most recent price as $95.96... That was last Wednesday Jan. 2nd. and today is Jan. 7th. (thus, it should show last Friday's close of $97.12 because the market today has not closed yet).
Even the simple app from Apple "Stocks" will show the closing prices of mutual fund right at 6:00pm Eastern time every day after the market close. It a pain to now have to use another app to show the current value of my portfolio as MoneyDance can't do that (app such as Stockfolio.... which also updates the closing prices for mutual funds every day by 6:00pm Eastern).
Will there ever be a fix for this issue???
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1 Posted by derekkent23 on 07 Jan, 2019 06:25 PM
I am not support staff, just a user.
First update to 2019 preview build 1838.
Have you tried the third-party Quote Loader for 2019. It works!
See Post 5 at http://help.infinitekind.com/discussions/investments/4039-quote-loa...
Download the PDF attached to post 5. In the PDF is a link to a YouTube video to get a overview of the Quote Loader.
If you have any questions or problems just post.
Hope this helps.
2 Posted by MWA_LAS on 08 Jan, 2019 11:20 PM
Thanks for your input but, can't understand why Moneydance won't fix this on-going issue. Having to use shoe-string methods to get something as simple as daily mutual fund closes is just crazy.
Still on feedback from any support staff on this issue.
Thanks, Marty
3 Posted by dwg on 08 Jan, 2019 11:40 PM
I'm a fellow user.
Moneydance uses third party services to provide quote prices. If the sources used do not provide these prices there is nothing the Moneydance folks can do to make them do so.
The company behind Moneydance i.e. The Infinite Kind, as a commercial organisation can only use sources that freely provide data commercially or pay a data provider. Organisations like Reuters can provide data but at a cost of many thousands of dollars per year, and they usually charge on a per seat basis (i.e. per user).
4 Posted by MWA_LAS on 15 Jan, 2019 05:46 AM
Yes, I understand everything you're saying above... I'm only saying MoneyDance used to have this function from Yahoo and now it doesn't... got it.
Hard to believe it's not available somewhere that Infinite Kind can utilize within this program. As it is now, this reported/promoted feature of the product is not there. I can still get reliable close numbers for mutual funds via Yahoo's app and just like Apple's "Stocks", etc., etc. but not within MoneyDance where it's useful in reports.
Other financial programs also have this feature that works (all of them commercial companies).
5 Posted by dwg on 15 Jan, 2019 06:21 AM
I'm a fellow user.
Many people have looked for alternative sources that provide a data feed freely provided via an API, not easy to find especially ones that have world coverage.
Yahoo basically told people you are not authorized to use the service get lost, this was after Yahoo was bought by Verizon, some programmers found a way around the block but TIK took the view that Verizon could easily close the alternative service down so it just becomes a game of move and counter move. TIK did approach The Financial Times but were told they did not have a license to redistribute data via a channel and TIK are considered to be a channel,
Recently TIK added IEX Trading (US stocks) And European Central Bank (Exchange rates) resources for the extension so the search continues.
Many sites provide quotes via a website, but Moneydance really needs API access rather than trying to extract data from a web page.
Some commercial organisations will use Yahoo even though it could be argued they have no license to do so, Other maintain their own price servers, like Quicken and Reckon, but these tend to only hold prices for "local " securities.
I would recommend using the Quote Loader solution, being a free third party solution developed by end users it is not bound to the position TIK are in. I'm one of the people involved in the early testing and I know it works well, is efficient, and has some very useful options around scheduling.
Over the years I have used a number of third party extensions. I base my use on what Ii need, I do not really care who created them.
6 Posted by Michael R. Coll... on 19 Jan, 2019 07:21 PM
I have 2 mutual funds. Both are American owned and both are on the NASDAQ exchange. For a while one of the mutual funds would update thru Money Dance, but not the other. Now, neither one does. If I want to enter the prices manually, Money Dance will accept them. However, it will only remember them if I wait until the next business day to manually enter. This doesn't bother me so much since there are dividends and capital gains distributions changing the number of shares I own and/or the price per share. So I rather enter manually. I guess you would have the same problem with actual stocks if accrued monies were reinvested.
7 Posted by MWA_LAS on 28 Jan, 2019 09:39 PM
Yes but, I'm still surprised no one from Infinitekind/MoneyDance has addressed this issue or even replied that they are working on it.... guess they are not.
Just today, for fun, I downloaded a trial software app called "Banktivity" ver. 7. And surprise! It get the stock prices right after the market closes and around 6:00pm (eastern) it also properly updates the mutual fund prices (all 6 that I own and want to follow with the extra work of manually entering).
8 Posted by dwg on 28 Jan, 2019 09:57 PM
Banktivity state they get their data from Yahoo.
If you want to use Yahoo as a source use Quote Loader.
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