Transaction symbol not showing in security chart in investments

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Peter Linley

07 Jun, 2021 06:26 AM

I might be missing something obvious but right now a mystery to me! I run two sets of accounts in Moneydance. In the first set of accounts under my investments, the individual security chart shows the very useful symbol on the chart showing when I bought or sold a security. However, in the second set of accounts, the charts for each individual security does NOT show the transaction symbol for when I bought or sold a security. I have searched around to try and work out why as well as the public discussions but have failed to rectify it.

  1. 1 Posted by Stuart Beesley ... on 07 Jun, 2021 06:06 PM

    Stuart Beesley - JUST A FELLOW USER and Toolbox ‘guy’'s Avatar

    Here's my read...:
    - just be a buy/sell (or, b/s_xfr, or div reinvest) - then if the txn has zero shares or zero price then it gets ignored - it then does some maths to get the buy/sell price. Thus a price of zero or splits of zero will go wrong..

    - Does this security have price data? volume data?

    Perhaps post a list of the txns in a security where the markers are not visible..?

    (not support, just a fellow user)

  2. 2 Posted by Peter Linley on 18 Jun, 2021 08:21 AM

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    Hi Stuart

    Thanks for responding to my query and apologies for the delayed response. I now realise the source of the problem and not sure how you get around it but possibly I’m missing something.

    All of my accounts are reflected in South African Rand in Moneydance. The transactions in question are dollar and sterling based transactions and then converted into rands. The historical price of the security is shown in the foreign currency but the initial transaction I have recorded is in Rands. If I don’t record the original transaction in rands the base doesn’t make sense.

    Would appreciate your insight into anything I may be doing incorrectly.

    Thanks and regards


  3. 3 Posted by Stuart Beesley ... on 18 Jun, 2021 08:24 AM

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    I think I would need to see screenshots of the txns, security setup and currency setup/conversion to play around myself.

    (Not support, just a fellow user)

  4. System closed this discussion on 17 Sep, 2021 08:30 AM.

  5. Peter Linley re-opened this discussion on 17 Sep, 2021 08:37 AM

  6. 4 Posted by Peter Linley on 17 Sep, 2021 08:37 AM

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    Hi Stuart

    Sorry I have taken so long to respond to you on this. It would be great if
    we could work this out…

    I will try and illustrate:
    Assume the account base is South African Rands
    The investment is MSCI World ETF listed in the UK so the currency on that
    is Sterling and so when I capture the price I do so in UK sterling which
    then auto converts to SA Rands in my Moneydance account.
    The trouble I am having:

    1. If I capture the purchase in Sterling, the percentage performance is
    ridiculous because it is comparing my sterling book value with the current
    MV in rands
    2. So my work around was to capture the purchase in Rands - performance
    problem then resolved as comparing BV in rands with MV which auto converts
    from the Sterling current price into Rands
    3. But the problem then is that I can’t see graphically where I traded the
    share as the security price is captured in Sterling.

    Hope screenshots below help illustrate this. I have used test numbers to
    show this.

    You will see on the ALL World ETF I have used the Sterling price - the
    performance comparing BV and MV circles in Blue
    For the EM ETF I have captured the Sterling converted into Rands to capture
    the purchase price

    [image: image.png]

    But for the EM ETF I cannot see the points graphically where i Traded the

    [image: image.png]

    Whereas if I capture the price in Sterling I obviously can do because the
    security is loaded through quote loaded in the security currency which is

    [image: image.png]

    Thanks for your interest.


    Peter Linley

  7. 5 Posted by Stuart Beesley ... on 17 Sep, 2021 04:06 PM

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    I tried to recreate your problem but I don't really understand what you are saying you are doing exactly in MD... It worked for me...

    Can you create a new dataset (File/New), select the right base currency, and then create an investment account, security, and transactions. Just enough to demonstrate the problem.. Then file/export backup that dataset and post it here... The we can see for ourselves? Of course, not containing personal Info, as that is not needed...

    (not support, just a fellow user)

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