Very slow to quit

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11 Dec, 2021 10:06 PM

It takes about 15 minutes to quit moneydance while it slowly produces a series of boxes such as "Unable to get rate from BGN to USD", going painfully through from every currency to USD. This only recently started happening.

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  1. 31 Posted by richard on 14 Dec, 2021 07:32 PM

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    I did the shrink and backup worked !!! Thank you so much.

    There is still the mystery of Downloads and a new mystery of why MD is
    accessing icloud. I don't see anything obvious when I log into my iCloud

    But everything seems to be working fine anyway. !!

  2. 32 Posted by Stuart Beesley ... on 14 Dec, 2021 07:41 PM

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    Please can you rerun toolbox analyse button and send that output?

    Why do u think MD is accessing iCloud?

  3. 33 Posted by richard on 14 Dec, 2021 09:21 PM

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    Here is the latest analyze output.

    I turned off full disk access and unchecked MD in the iCloud access list.
    There were no ill effects. I think that at some point in the past I was
    syncing Desktop&Document Folders to iCloud, but I turned it off long ago.
    I don't remember why.

  4. 34 Posted by Stuart Beesley ... on 14 Dec, 2021 09:31 PM

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    Whilst we are on this. Your price history is the largest element of your dataset.

    Object: csnap 15,6316 items @ 38MB

    You can consider purging / thinning the old price history. Toolbox. Advanced mode. Currency/security menu. Price history thin/purge.

    Backup first.

  5. 35 Posted by Stuart Beesley ... on 16 Dec, 2021 09:02 PM

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    Did U run the price history thin/prune?

  6. 36 Posted by richard on 16 Dec, 2021 09:12 PM

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    Not yet. I wanted to test everything for a few days. All OK

    Why thin prices? Doesn’t seem like saving 38MB is important. I did look at
    the utility and there was a scary READ THIS FIRST that I didn’t understand.
    It seemed easiest to just skip it. What would the benefit be?

  7. 37 Posted by Stuart Beesley ... on 16 Dec, 2021 09:18 PM

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    Just saves space. Not critical.

  8. 38 Posted by richard on 08 Jan, 2022 12:08 AM

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    Stuart or whoever-

    I can't get moneydance to start at all. I get the Moneydance menu with
    "about" and "preferences", but that's all. I tried a variety of old
    backups, but nothing. Just hangs. I assume I should just be able to click
    on a xxx.moneydance.archive file

  9. 39 Posted by Stuart Beesley ... on 08 Jan, 2022 08:07 AM

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    Best best is to find your errlog.txt file and post that.

    But yes you also double click a xxx.moneydancearchive to restore.

    But I’m not sure it will work. Find the error log and post that first.

  10. 40 Posted by richard on 08 Jan, 2022 01:45 PM

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    Thanks as usual for your response.

    My Moneydance did start after a very long delay. As a last ditch effort I
    tried to start it, and when nothing happened I went out for a walk. When I
    returned it was up and looking normal, but I'm afraid to close it (i.e.
    "quit") now.

    I tried old moneydancearchive files with no different result. Also in
    desperation I gave Moneydance full disk access and access to iCloud since
    these things seemed to be an issue in the past, but that had no apparent

    Anyway, I'm up for the moment, but I doubt that things are really OK.

    Here is the errlog.txt file for your consideration.

    Thanks again,

  11. 41 Posted by Stuart Beesley ... on 08 Jan, 2022 02:48 PM

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    There’s no error in the log. You do have loads of MD+ account connections. Can’t see anything wrong. What happens if you turn off wifi and restart MD?

  12. 42 Posted by richard on 08 Jan, 2022 03:14 PM

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    Thanks for checking the log. I do have a bunch of MD+ connections. I’m
    afraid to restart MD just now as I need to use it a bit today and it may
    not restart, but I’ll try it later and let you know.

  13. 43 Posted by richard on 09 Jan, 2022 07:29 PM

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    Mysteriously, the startup problem has gone away by itself. However the old
    problem of not being able to do backups has returned. If I do a backup MD
    hangs and I have to force quit. I can live without MD backups since I have
    multiple archived backup systems (Time Machine and BackBlaze), but it's
    distressing and might indicate some problem that will rear its head

    A recent errlog of a session I force quit out of is attached

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