Moneydance new version VERY slow

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29 Nov, 2023 03:33 AM

I'm running Mac OS Sonoma 14.1.1 and I just installed the 2023.2 (5059) version of Moneydance. It was running great prior but now every time I try to do anything I get the color beach ball turning for about 1 second. This does not seem like a lot, but it is EVERY action that generates it. moving fields in a transaction. Opening a split. hitting return. moving accounts. Before it was seamless. Now it is REALLY slow.

thanks for helping me figure this out

  1. 1 Posted by dtd on 29 Nov, 2023 04:17 AM

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    "It was running great prior" - I'm going to assume you just upgraded to Sonoma 14.1.1 and prior were not running Sonoma.

    If so, Sonoma is still not validated by MD because Apple totally changed how iCloud works. Assuming you are running iCloud sync, disable it. Either live without syncing or move to Dropbox for now.

    Unfortunately, this is something that MD can't totally fix - Apple has to address how they changed iCloud. That said, Apple rarely admits they changed something incorrectly, so we will see. MD may eventually capitulate and wewrite how they do isync, but don't bet on that soon.

  2. 2 Posted by dtd on 29 Nov, 2023 04:18 AM

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    5059 versus 5006 wouldn't have caused your situation.

  3. 3 Posted by Stuart Beesley ... on 29 Nov, 2023 08:39 AM

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    Try disabling iCloud sync and/or switch to Dropbox sync.

    If that fails then grab help/console. Upload that here.

  4. 4 Posted by Doug Fuehne on 29 Nov, 2023 02:38 PM

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    This comment was split into a new private discussion: Moneydance new version VERY slow

    thanks for the reply. the process actually was 1) i upgraded to sonoma a
    few days ago and then 2) i then upgraded from 2023.1 to 2023.2 just
    yesterday. that is when i noticed the slowdown.... although I had not used
    MD significantly between the sonoma upgrade and the MD update.

    If i disable icloud syncing, how does MD then work - is it all local files
    on my computer? i have used dropbox sync in the past but i am trying to
    stay away from dropbox.

    thank you very much for the reply! i've been a loyal MD user for many
    years :-)


    On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 8:17 PM dtd <[email blocked]> wrote:

  5. 5 Posted by dwg on 29 Nov, 2023 04:00 PM

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    The iCloud implementation in Sonoma has been identified as a problem, one that it seems that Moneydance cannot fix, Moneydance is just using standard Apple API calls, hence relying on updates Apple may provide to address the problem. Hence to support Syncing at this time it is recommended to use Dropbox which is not displaying any such problem.

    Without either Dropbox or iCloud syncing to a mobile device cannot happen, syncing to other devices could happen if you have a service that can support Shared Files, otherwise you are limited to a standalone system.

  6. 6 Posted by Doug Fuehne on 30 Nov, 2023 04:08 AM

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    thanks Stuart, i did disable icloud sync; seems to be a bit better now. I
    don't use my MD on my phone much, so having just one computer will not be a
    bad thing necessarily. i would like to ensure backups with icloud
    eventually tho.

    while i have this thread open, i have another question - is it best to
    start a new thread? I noticed today that my fidelity stopped syncing, and
    then after some research I learned Fidelity no longer supports plaid. Two
    questions for you and the team:
    --Fidelity says they have their own service, "Fidelity Connect" - how does
    that work with MoneyDance?
    --When I followed some articles on IK site, it showed how to delink the
    MoneyDance+ from Fidelity. However, when i go back in and try to set up
    the "online banking" - it keeps defaulting to the MD+ screen. How can i
    set up just online banking and not MD+ for fidelity, but still use MD+ for
    my other accounts?

    thanks for the help

  7. 7 Posted by dtd on 30 Nov, 2023 04:52 AM

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    Yes, start a new thread, so the title is appropriate, and basically copy your message.

    I have some answers, but I am headed for bed, so will answer tomorrow (my time) if someone doesn't beat me to it.

  8. 8 Posted by dtd on 30 Nov, 2023 04:52 AM

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    Also, upgrade to PREVIEW version 5061 if you haven't already.

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