tag:infinitekind.tenderapp.com,2009-01-14:/discussions/switching-from-another-personal-finance-program/614-ibankInfinite Kind: Discussion 2016-03-19T05:06:18Ztag:infinitekind.tenderapp.com,2009-01-14:Comment/381305432015-10-07T16:15:39Z2015-10-07T16:15:40ZiBank<div><p>Hi</p>
<p>I have a follow up question about Dropbox syncing. I am
unwilling to give Moneydance access to my entire main Dropbox
account and have therefore set it up in a second Dropbox account.
Is there a way of having the iPhone app connect to this, or
(because I have my main Dropbox account installed in the phone)
will it not make the connection?</p>
<p>I don't know why Moneydance have chosen to request access to the
entire Dropbox account, rather than create their own location and
have access to that - do you?</p>
<p>Kind regards<br>
Jessica</p></div>jesstag:infinitekind.tenderapp.com,2009-01-14:Comment/381305432015-10-08T16:55:09Z2015-10-08T16:55:09ZiBank<div><p>OK. One last follow up and then I'll wait for a reply to all
three questions :)</p>
<ul>
<li>on the iPhone app there is mention of wifi syncing. I have gone
to the extensions though and "Network Synchroniser extension" is
not listed?</li>
</ul>
<p>Kind regards<br>
Jessica</p></div>jesstag:infinitekind.tenderapp.com,2009-01-14:Comment/381305432015-10-09T19:06:29Z2015-10-09T19:06:29ZiBank<div><p>Hi Jessica,</p>
<p>Importing transactions from iBank shouldn't have caused you to
hit the 100 transaction limit, unless you typed them in manually.
There isn't a way to extend the trial, unfortunately. However, we
do have a 90-day no-questions refund period. You can go ahead and
purchase Moneydance and, if it doesn't work for you, just get in
touch and ask us for a refund.</p>
<p>You should be able to sync using your secondary Dropbox account
by sharing the .moneydancesync folder from your main account with
the second one. The mobile app used to support Wifi syncing in
older versions of Moneydance. However, it never worked very well
and was difficult to support, so it is no longer and option in
current versions.</p>
<p>Hope that helps. Please let me know if I can be of further
assistance, and thanks for using Moneydance.</p>
<p>Ian<br>
Infinite Kind Support</p></div>Ian Ltag:infinitekind.tenderapp.com,2009-01-14:Comment/381305432015-10-09T19:19:21Z2015-10-09T19:19:21ZiBank<div><p>Hi Ian</p>
<p>I hadn't noticed, but it seems correcting the import errors (eg
duplications from split transactions) seems to have counted as
transactions. I haven't actually had a chance to add a
transaction.</p>
<p>Here's what I think you're suggesting:</p>
<ol>
<li>
<p>Have Moneydance from my computer sync to my second Dropbox
account.</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>Share that Moneydance sync Dropbox file/folder with my main
Dropbox account (which is the one in my phone).</p>
</li>
<li>
<p>The Moneydance app on my phone will then "see" the Moneydance
sync file.</p>
</li>
</ol>
<p>Here's my concern: this then gives Moneydance full access to
both Dropbox accounts.</p>
<p>Also, why had Moneydance implemented its Dropbox use this way?
Are there plans to change it so that it only requests access to its
own Dropbox folder?</p>
<p>Thanks for your help, I'd very much like to use it but cannot
grant the program full access to all my files.</p>
<p>Kind regards<br>
Jessica</p></div>jesstag:infinitekind.tenderapp.com,2009-01-14:Comment/381305432015-10-09T19:24:19Z2015-10-09T19:24:19ZiBank<div><p>Moneydance syncs using a folder called ".moneydancesync" that is
located in your Dropbox folder. Only that folder needs to be shared
between your two accounts in order to sync, not your entire dropbox
folder.</p>
<p>The app requests full access because we implemented it before
Dropbox had the option to request limited access. We do plan to
update the app so that it is only requesting limited access, but I
don't have a timeline for that update at the moment.</p>
<p>Ian<br>
Infinite Kind Support</p></div>Ian Ltag:infinitekind.tenderapp.com,2009-01-14:Comment/381305432015-10-09T19:33:34Z2015-10-09T19:33:34ZiBank<div><p>I'm either muddied or not being clear :)</p>
<p>On my phone is my main Dropbox account so surely the app is
going to ask for access to everything in it (including the
Moneydance folder)?</p></div>jesstag:infinitekind.tenderapp.com,2009-01-14:Comment/381305432015-10-09T19:46:14Z2015-10-09T19:46:14ZiBank<div><p>Ah, I see. I got backwards which account was on which
device.</p>
<p>Yes, the app on your phone is going to request access to your
full Dropbox folder. However, since this Moneydance desktop program
already has full access to your Dropbox folder (like all desktop
programs), there isn't really a danger in allowing the app to have
the same access.</p>
<p>Ian<br>
Infinite Kind Support</p></div>Ian Ltag:infinitekind.tenderapp.com,2009-01-14:Comment/381305432015-10-09T19:59:03Z2015-10-09T19:59:03ZiBank<div><p>I signed Moneydance’s syncing into my second Dropbox
account so I don’t see how it got access to my main Dropbox
account?? (which you’re correct in thinking is also the one
on my computer). I did not sign in to the main one when I gave
Moneydance access so surely it does not have access to it?</p></div>jesstag:infinitekind.tenderapp.com,2009-01-14:Comment/381305432015-10-09T20:18:26Z2015-10-09T20:18:26ZiBank<div><p>Dropbox is just a folder on your computer. Moneydance (like all
desktop programs) has access to all of the folders on your computer
that your user account has access to. So, while the program does
not have access through the Dropbox syncing mechanism, it could
easily manipulate files in your Dropbox folder using regular file
access methods. This isn't unique to the Moneydance desktop
application. This is how the program is able to save files on your
computer in general. For example, if you moved your Moneydance data
set to your Dropbox folder, you would not need to grant Moneydance
access to the folder in order to open your file.</p>
<p>Of course, we have the upmost respect for your privacy and the
program doesn't do anything malicious on your computer. In
addition, all of your Moneydance data is encrypted, so other
programs with access to any folder containing Moneydance data would
not be able to read it. So, you don't actually gain anything
security by not granting the Moneydance mobile app full access to
your Dropbox folder.</p>
<p>Ian<br>
Infinite Kind Support</p></div>Ian Ltag:infinitekind.tenderapp.com,2009-01-14:Comment/381305432015-10-09T20:33:10Z2015-10-09T20:33:10ZiBank<div><p>I don’t doubt your intentions. In any way. I just
don’t know the security. I’m sure all the other high
profile hacks were to companies that thought they were careful and
secure.</p>
<p>Thus far, I have not given Moneydance access beyond my computer
to my main dropbox account. I know this because I have two-factor
authentication on this account. Although the program can see my
files, it doesn’t have the right to share any information
(inc its own account file) to anywhere.</p>
<p>When i attempted to set up syncing I did so by choosing my
second Dropbox account. I guess this just isn’t going to
work. You’ve been very patient, answering my queries, but it
does seem this is a non starter until/if Moneydance fix the Dropbox
access request. I work in the tech industry and I know if
something’s not on the timeline it’s not coming anytime
soon. It’s a shame as I think the program looks very
good.</p>
<p>All the best<br>
Jess</p></div>jesstag:infinitekind.tenderapp.com,2009-01-14:Comment/381305432015-10-09T20:59:22Z2015-10-09T20:59:22ZiBank<div><p>I'm sorry Moneydance doesn't work for you right now. I've
attached the ticket for this bug to this discussion, so we'll let
you know once it's been fixed.</p>
<p>Please let me know if I can be of any further assistance, and
thanks for your interest in Moneydance.</p>
<p>Ian<br>
Infinite Kind Support</p></div>Ian Ltag:infinitekind.tenderapp.com,2009-01-14:Comment/381305432015-10-09T21:02:52Z2015-10-09T21:02:52ZiBank<div><p>That's great, thanks. I'll hope for it to rise up the project
list :)</p></div>jess