What's Happening with MD Development

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25 Feb, 2020 04:31 PM

Hi folks,
Love Moneydance. Have not seen a blog post or update since June 2019? What's happening? Is it time to look for the next best financial software?

  1. 1 Posted by derekkent23 on 25 Feb, 2020 04:44 PM

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    I am not support staff, just a user.
    Hi jonathan

    It would be helpful if you stated the version/build you are running, e.g. 2019.4(1903).

    2019.4(1903) the build I am running and is a preview build 11 February 2020, so not so long ago.
    Its true the released build 2019.3(1880) has not been updated for some time, 23 builds behind the preview build.
    So, I think development is happening.

    Why do you fell you need to look for new software?

    Hope this helps

  2. 2 Posted by dwg on 25 Feb, 2020 09:24 PM

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    I'm a fellow user.

    Blog posts are infrequent, as a marketing company TIK (Moneydance) would get a F.

    There have been 23 builds since the last stable version, many address specific point issues that only affect a small number of users, but I'm not convinced there is enough there to make a new stable release. On the other hand there are a couple of changes in more recent previews that have been made which I personally think are problematic and should be addressed before there is a new stable release.

    A high volume of new stable releases at this stage of the life cycle I would not see as desirable as it would indicate software with a lot of general problems.

  3. 3 Posted by jonathan on 26 Feb, 2020 07:32 PM

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    Hi Folks,

    Great that there are so many builds. Glad to hear it. I don't follow the builds until they are stable. I had a small problem a little while ago so I am running 2019.4 (1899).

    Like many have pointed out, communication is not robust from the developer. The lack of any information about the evolution of the software since June undermines user confidence. I am not looking for a "high volume."

    The main features I hoped for: I have hoped for a long time to see the investment tools evolved. getting data that is imported to be in all the right places is very difficult and at times impossible.

    Software, especially financial software, succeeds when there is a steady trust between a developer and users. The near-complete information blackout makes it hard to maintain trust. Hence, my comment asking if/when it is it time to look for a more responsible developer? Don't need a detailed roadmap but something about features to come would be welcome.

  4. 4 Posted by dwg on 26 Feb, 2020 08:23 PM

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    The company has taken the approach of not talking about futures in any way, they have made no secret of this and staff routinely say this is the policy. We get an indication of what will be in the next version when it reaches the stage of becoming a public beta, before then the astute may pick up something here and there.

    I do not believe the regular forum participants have picked up any indications of what might be in the next release at this stage.

  5. Support Staff 5 Posted by Sean Reilly on 26 Feb, 2020 08:35 PM

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    Hi Jonathan,

    I can assure you that development is humming along. I'm working on a lot of little issues every day as well as some bigger features that I'd love to release soon but won't until they are ready. I started writing Moneydance more than 22 years ago and have improved it nearly constantly since then. I've also learned in that time that it's always a bad idea to provide an ETA on a future feature.

    DWG is right that I would get an F in marketing, and someday I'd like to fix that, but for now I'll keep plugging away at fixing bugs and adding some cool new features which I try not to describe until they're ready to be used.

    All the best,

    Sean Reilly
    Developer, The Infinite Kind

  6. Support Staff 6 Posted by Sean Reilly on 26 Feb, 2020 08:36 PM

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    I will say though that requests for features and bug reports are taken seriously. I didn't mean to discount that in my last message. I try to know about and prioritise every problem and feature request.


    Sean Reilly
    Developer, The Infinite Kind

  7. 7 Posted by jonathan on 02 Mar, 2020 09:26 PM

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    Thanks for the reinforcement of the philosophy. I appreciate the commitment to not overpromising. That is rare and impressive. Giving yourself an F in marketing and not partnering with or hiring someone who is good at ethical marketing is a missed opportunity. Glad to hear the robust development is ongoing. I hope there is also some thought to succession planning for the future!

    With gratitude.

  8. 8 Posted by s©tt on 04 Mar, 2020 12:33 PM

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    @jonathan - As for preview versions not being stable: I've been a user since 2010, I read the change log and almost always update to new preview releases, and in all those years I've only had to return to a previous version on a couple of occasions. In fact the biggest problems I ever had with MD was with a release version (when MD2015 was first released). So my experience has been that the preview versions are almost always as stable as the release versions, and sometimes more stable, and I certainly wouldn't go back to a release version now (too many good things added in the previews).

    I think MD is really outstanding, and the recent inclusion of Mike Bray's 'Quote Loader' extension was a welcome addition. I'm looking forward to a new major release so I can upgrade to help with the development. :-)

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