Alternative method for sync

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John O

Sep 14, 2018 @ 02:47 AM

Hi,

I'm using a trial version of Moneydance. I really like the product. However, I don't want my financial data to travel outside of my environment even if it's encrypted. How can I sync between my desktop and my Android device without Dropbox? A network sync would be an idea, IP to IP via a shared folder.

Thanks

  1. 1 Posted by dwg on Sep 16, 2018 @ 09:32 PM

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    I'm a fellow user.

    With mobile devices Dropbox is the only choice available, as far as I am aware mobile devices do not have the capability of using shared folders.

  2. 2 Posted by Jwos GM on Oct 27, 2018 @ 01:20 AM

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    Hi again.

    I know it can be done, we have our own apps that can communicate with a
    Windows machine via Sync. In fact, my QNAP NAS at home has a QSync
    application that can communicate with a mobile or Windows QSync module.
    Handy feature. Just an idea.

    I noticed that you haven't had a new release in a while. What are the plans?

    Also, how is the company structured? Are support folks employee? As well
    as developers?

    Thanks

  3. 3 Posted by Henry on Oct 27, 2018 @ 09:07 AM

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    Hi John,

    Thank you for contacting us.
    The network synchronizer was available in older versions of Moneydance, but has been removed in favour of Dropbox syncing.
    We chose to sync using only Dropbox, as it's more stable, robust, and it is end-to-end encrypted.

    The 2019 version of Moneydance is currently being worked on, I however currently don't have any concrete dates that I can share with you.

    I recommend following our blog for updates.

    Henry
    Infinite Kind Support

  4. 4 Posted by Jwos GM on Oct 27, 2018 @ 05:02 PM

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    Thanks for the reply.

    That's unfortunate you did not leave that other option. Especially, if
    you want to sync inside your local network. Sometimes removing a feature
    that other use is not a fan favorite. Let the user decide which option
    to use. I've been developing software for many years and don't trust my
    personal data outside of my network. I don't like my data on other
    outside servers even though they claim to be safe.

    Also, how is the company structured? Are support folks employee? As well
    as developers?

    Where are you located?

    John

  5. 5 Posted by dwg on Oct 27, 2018 @ 07:35 PM

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    I'm a fellow user.

    In reading old discussions it looks like that the Moneydance folks had to field a lot of issues being caused by network configurations that would not allow the old Wi-Fi solution to work, it appears that they ere issues that they could not resolve.

  6. 6 Posted by sprimost on Oct 28, 2018 @ 01:07 AM

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    I'm a fellow user.

    If I remember correctly, the issue was exactly about the stability and
    reliability of the local network to handle the requirements of a
    "multi-master" set of databases. Also, the database technology used by
    MD does not lend itself to be a "multi-master".

    A "multi-master" database is a set of files that each contain a true
    copy of the data. Each one is the factual representation. In reality, it
    is quite complicated to have this because changes are made quite
    randomly, and how does one resolve changes from two different sources
    (users update) I reference a lot of questions about "lost" transactions
    and changes not appearing, or "staying". Things get really complicated
    if there are more than two so-called copies available. Using Dropbox
    resolves some of these complications, but it does raise security
    concerns of habving your data stored in the cloud (and Dropbox is not
    PCI certified (means that the security has not undergone extension
    testing looking for vulnerabilities).

    If interested, I can post a set of instructions that will sets one
    computer to maintain the program and files, and allows multiple other
    computers to access that one computer and run MD on it. For now, I am
    using a Chromebook and Chrome Remote extension, but the extension is
    multi-platform. I need to do a bit more on its security paradigm since
    it may be going through a Google server. Unfortunately, it does not work
    with iPhone or Android although there are other apps that can be used.
    (my Phase 2).

  7. 7 Posted by Jwos GM on Oct 28, 2018 @ 05:17 PM

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    Thanks for the reply.

    Most likely, user error (not understanding).

    So, this company does not have employees?

    Where are you located?

    John

  8. 8 Posted by Jwos GM on Nov 03, 2018 @ 11:36 PM

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    What about a local connection to a DropBox like storage device.
    If MD can connect to DropBox to get the DB, how can we have a local
    DropBox type connection? As if DropBox was on the local LAN.

  9. 9 Posted by dwg on Nov 04, 2018 @ 02:18 AM

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    The Moneydance Mobile app is using the Dropbox API to communicate with the dropbox server so it is very specific. The syncing mechanism also expects the syncing location to be present whenever moneydance is being used, I do not believe the software has a store and forward mechanism to allow for offline usage of the application, the offline capability that exists today in the desktop product is solely due to the dropbox client capability.

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