tag:infinitekind.tenderapp.com,2009-01-14:/discussions/online-banking/19216-same-transaction-downloads-from-bank-on-every-cycleInfinite Kind: Discussion 2021-07-27T02:50:42Ztag:infinitekind.tenderapp.com,2009-01-14:Comment/493020222021-07-21T22:15:24Z2021-07-21T22:15:24ZSame transaction downloads from bank on every cycle<div><p>just a user...</p>
<p>Saving it as new from the download is what is normally recommended, as then you get the FITID field (a hidden field) to match the bank, and the bank won't download it again.</p>
<p>In your case, this doesnt appear to be working.</p>
<p>A good first bit of detective work would be to look at the FITID field and see if it changes (I assume it would, but if not - well that's info)</p>
<p>you can look at this field (assuming Linux is same as mac) by selecting the transaction, right click, and pick Show Transaction Details - look for FITID field and compare to when you get a duplicate.</p>
<p>That won't fix anything, but it's a start to diagnose the issue.</p>
<p>Another bit might be changing the transaction away from being in the match window. If you are continuing to do that, maybe you should just sigh, leave the date wrong, and change it after whatever period of time the bank downloads items (i.e. downloads do expire).</p>
<p>Yet another thought - when the transaction downloads "again" - just zero out the new value, and let the bank see that it's been downloaded, and leaves it alone. Delete that zeroed value after the download expires.</p></div>dtdtag:infinitekind.tenderapp.com,2009-01-14:Comment/493020222021-07-21T23:03:06Z2021-07-21T23:03:06ZSame transaction downloads from bank on every cycle<div><p>Thanks for the input dtd. The FITID remains the same on each download, though "Show Transaction Details" is disabled for unconfirmed items. I tried leaving the transaction in match window and also zeroing the amount. Neither fix the problem.</p></div>davidtag:infinitekind.tenderapp.com,2009-01-14:Comment/493020222021-07-22T01:37:32Z2021-07-22T01:37:32ZSame transaction downloads from bank on every cycle<div><p>just a user - well those were my best shots.</p>
<p>If the FITID is constant, I don't understand why the bank keeps downloading it. That's the point of the FITID field.</p></div>dtdtag:infinitekind.tenderapp.com,2009-01-14:Comment/493020222021-07-22T01:49:37Z2021-07-22T01:49:37ZSame transaction downloads from bank on every cycle<div><p>Has a downloaded transaction been confirmed in the register?</p>
<p>I do not know that if you have a downloaded transaction that is not confirmed if another transaction will or will not be downloaded.</p></div>dwgtag:infinitekind.tenderapp.com,2009-01-14:Comment/493020222021-07-22T01:51:39Z2021-07-22T01:51:39ZSame transaction downloads from bank on every cycle<div><p>Yes, it's confirmed.</p></div>davidtag:infinitekind.tenderapp.com,2009-01-14:Comment/493020222021-07-22T01:54:43Z2021-07-22T01:54:43ZSame transaction downloads from bank on every cycle<div><p>I think this is obvious, based on your statements, but you never know.</p>
<p>Confirmed, and the date LEFT ALONE?</p>
<p>i.e. you download, change nothing, confirm the transaction, then download again - and you get the transaction again?</p>
<p>btw - I've seen that happen, but the FITID was different.</p></div>dtdtag:infinitekind.tenderapp.com,2009-01-14:Comment/493020222021-07-22T03:49:22Z2021-07-22T03:49:22ZSame transaction downloads from bank on every cycle<div><p>Thanks for the question. I did correct the incorrect guesses as to payee and category made by MD. I did not alter the date or amount. In that scenario, it will download the transaction on the very next download, whether that is a minute later or the next day.</p></div>davidtag:infinitekind.tenderapp.com,2009-01-14:Comment/493020222021-07-22T05:00:31Z2021-07-22T05:00:31ZSame transaction downloads from bank on every cycle<div><p>If the FITID is the same - the bank is the issue, they are ignoring the FITID field. What bank?</p></div>dtdtag:infinitekind.tenderapp.com,2009-01-14:Comment/493020222021-07-22T23:48:46Z2021-07-22T23:48:46ZSame transaction downloads from bank on every cycle<div><p>nbkc (national bank of kansas city). I also tried leaving the downloaded trans completely unmodified. Same result.</p></div>davidtag:infinitekind.tenderapp.com,2009-01-14:Comment/493020222021-07-23T00:54:53Z2021-07-23T00:54:53ZSame transaction downloads from bank on every cycle<div><p>and the fitids are the same, correct?</p>
<p>moving further along, this is an automatic download, not a manual download correct?</p>
<p>if the answer to both is yes, (i.e. fitid same, automatic download), you might want to contact nbkc and (saying you are using Quicken!) that your direct connect download for this item is consistent.</p></div>dtdtag:infinitekind.tenderapp.com,2009-01-14:Comment/493020222021-07-23T01:02:55Z2021-07-23T01:02:55ZSame transaction downloads from bank on every cycle<div><p>Thanks again for your help on this. FITIDs are the same. The download is manual (Ctrl+D). I don't have automatic setup. Would the results be different? Yes, I guess I'll try the bank next.</p></div>davidtag:infinitekind.tenderapp.com,2009-01-14:Comment/493020222021-07-23T01:20:19Z2021-07-23T01:20:19ZSame transaction downloads from bank on every cycle<div><p>The results should be the same whethe it is a manual download and import or an automatic one, the data is OFX for an automatic download. and assuming you choose OFX it is the same for manual downloads.</p>
<p>If possible I would suggest you post two files that exhibit the problem so the files can be examine and tested.</p></div>dwgtag:infinitekind.tenderapp.com,2009-01-14:Comment/493020222021-07-25T03:17:15Z2021-07-25T03:17:15ZSame transaction downloads from bank on every cycle<div><p>I think I misunderstood auto vs manual. I don't download an OFX file, I just hit Ctrl+D or Ctrl+Shift+D to download transactions. I don't know how to obtain the source file from the bank. In any case, I'll call the bank on Monday to see if they can shed any light.</p></div>davidtag:infinitekind.tenderapp.com,2009-01-14:Comment/493020222021-07-25T03:37:10Z2021-07-25T03:37:10ZSame transaction downloads from bank on every cycle<div><p>Ctrl D is the Moneydance keyboard short cut to download the highlighted account. this is an Automatic download using Direct Connect.</p>
<p>With these transactions if you right slick on the transaction in the register and select Show Transaction Details on the duplicated transactions we may be able to identify any differences.</p></div>dwgtag:infinitekind.tenderapp.com,2009-01-14:Comment/493020222021-07-27T02:50:21Z2021-07-27T02:50:21ZSame transaction downloads from bank on every cycle<div><p>For whatever reason, that transaction has stopped downloading. So I'm going to leave well enough alone. Thanks for your help. If it happens again, I'll go straight to the bank.</p></div>david