Moneydance+ UK availability
When I saw the updates over a year ago about moneydance+ I decided to upgrade to the latest version so that when it became available in the UK I would be able to sign up.
The blog article of 12 October 2021 stated "UK and investment support soon to follow".
I feel slightly misled into upgrading based on that wording. Over a year is not soon - can you please advise what your definition of "soon to follow" actually means, and when the functionality will be available for UK banks. Is it in the coming weeks, months, or years?
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1 Posted by Irving on 30 Nov, 2022 06:56 PM
Chris
I think you have hit the nail on the head. I too have been waiting over a year for this and aid specifically for the upgrade for this. The fact that no one has replied says it all. This is the last time I pay for an upgrade on MD
2 Posted by dwg on 30 Nov, 2022 08:55 PM
FWIW I have put a note on the Developer's web site that this is a question that support should be on top of.
While I am aware that testing shows that Moneydance+ does work with UK banks I do not think that other customers should be offering reasons as to perhaps why the capability has not been released, this is clearly something for company representatives to do.
3 Posted by Irving on 01 Dec, 2022 07:31 AM
Thanks DWG
4 Posted by chris on 12 Dec, 2022 05:17 PM
Are you going to even bother replying Infinite Kind?? Any kind of response at all is better than completely ignoring the customers who you misled into upgrading with the promise of a feature 'coming soon' 14 months ago....
5 Posted by derekkent23 on 13 Dec, 2022 08:29 AM
I am not support staff, just a user.
Hi Chris
I have added another message to that posted by dwg to Sean’s the Moneydance developers Slack web site requesting he take a look at your discussion.
Hope this helps.
6 Posted by obbiie on 19 Dec, 2022 10:10 AM
It's pretty disappointing to see this continued radio silence on this issue - just be up front about it. If the feature is postponed or cancelled just say that.
I believe the issue is with the partner being used but it's hard to see how it can be causing this much delay when you look at what others have achieved in this area. SyncForYNAB is a good example of a working solution from a one man band (before he joined YNAB) I've also recently tried Banktivity again and their Salt Edge based direct connect solution seems to work pretty well.
Support Staff 7 Posted by Sean Reilly on 19 Dec, 2022 11:10 AM
Hello,
I'm sorry for the lack of communication about this. Basically, we can't use Plaid to provide UK connectivity. I am working on getting a connection up and running with SaltEdge to provide transaction download, and possibly more, with UK banks and a lot more banks outside of North America than Plaid ever supported. It is coming, but I'm sorry that I can't yet provide an ETA.
Thanks,
Sean
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Sean Reilly
Developer, The Infinite Kind
https://infinitekind.com
8 Posted by obbiie on 19 Dec, 2022 11:01 PM
Thanks for the update Sean, good to know there is a solution possible.
9 Posted by patrickchamberl... on 02 Jan, 2023 02:14 PM
This is the time of year when I have a few days time to get my accounts up to date - still by manual entry - and then check the Moneydance forums to see if there's been any progress.
Happy to see there is some hope - Saltedge supports at least some of my accounts.
10 Posted by patrickchamberl... on 23 Mar, 2023 12:27 PM
I read on another thread that some people are testing a beta that works with UK banks .. where do I sign up?
11 Posted by dwg on 24 Mar, 2023 01:29 AM
The beta was for Plaid.
12 Posted by patrickchamberl... on 24 Mar, 2023 08:22 AM
<sigh> .. one day ..
13 Posted by dwg on 24 Mar, 2023 08:51 AM
There has been no further updates on using SaltEdge, nor any new preview releases since 2022.6. It was known that 2022.6 was on the way as possibly the last release in the 2022 series.
We may not see anything until the next major version goes into testing.
14 Posted by patrickchamberl... on 24 Mar, 2023 09:52 AM
I'm encouraged to see that a lot of the accounts I use are supported according to the Saltedge website.
This can't come too soon for me .. I'm still entering transactions manually.
I've tried importing data files, where they're offered and creating csv files pasted from statements where there is no data download available. I can get them working but in the end it's more trouble than manual input.
15 Posted by obbiie on 29 Mar, 2023 09:28 PM
Had hoped this would be on the MD 2023 upgrade release notes. Any roadmap for this at all?
16 Posted by dwg on 29 Mar, 2023 09:42 PM
I'm a fellow user.
TIK do not publish any roadmap information.
A lot of the changes to MD2023 are under the hood, so in the engine department we never see. As far as I know there has so far been no activity with the usual testing suspects regarding SaltEdge testing, and given the under the hood work I do not think we are up to that stage of having a working implementation to look at.
17 Posted by patrickchamberl... on 29 May, 2023 09:48 AM
<sigh> came back to check if there had been any progress with the 2023 upgrade .. disappointed to find that I still have to enter my transactions by hand in 2023!
System closed this discussion on 28 Aug, 2023 09:50 AM.
obbiie re-opened this discussion on 28 Sep, 2023 10:01 AM
18 Posted by obbiie on 28 Sep, 2023 10:01 AM
I assume there is no movement on UK support for MD+ ?
19 Posted by dwg on 28 Sep, 2023 11:14 AM
The work on Moneydance 2023 is a rewrite of the code into the Kotlin language in order to facilitate future capability, Kotlin can be supported on mobile devices whereas Java cannot. But do not expect mobile support in the next release, that is still a ways off.
So all the effort at the moment is on this. We have been cycling through Alpha releases trying to get it bedded down and find as many bugs as possible before it is made into a Beta Release, we are currently at Build 5042 to give an indication of how many builds we have cycled through. It is getting closer to having a new Beta but I do not think it is quite there yet.
The feature list is pretty empty, work is being done to fix things like memory problems but no new real major features will be present and I would suggest no Moneydance + support past Plaid at this stage.
20 Posted by obbiie on 28 Sep, 2023 12:48 PM
Cheers, does that mean Plaid might work for some UK banks, or was that only available to some beta testers?
21 Posted by dwg on 28 Sep, 2023 01:38 PM
It was only available for Beta testing. At the end of the day Plaid proved not to be viable for general use outside of the U.S. I think you can read that as it was too expensive. To be honest Plaid's coverage outside of North America is not brilliant.
22 Posted by obbiie on 28 Sep, 2023 02:14 PM
Thanks, it's a shame as I really do like Moneydance but I'm moving to Banktivity (they use Salt Edge for UK banks and it works well)
Investment account management is a lot better in Monedance, but my tolerance for manual entry just isn't there.
Hopefully, in the future, this will be implemented, and I can happily switch back.