Installing Moneydance 2023 on Manjaro

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  1. Support Staff 1 Posted by Maddy on 31 Jul, 2023 03:45 PM

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    Hi Phillip,
    Thank you for contacting Moneydance support.

    Moneydance doesn't support syncing to OneDrive.

    For further information please refer to these articles:

    "Syncing with Other Computers" here

    "Syncing with Mobile App" here

    Additionally, it is possible to amend the backup location, to ensure the automatic backup files are sent elsewhere. For example, one could choose an external drive, or a shared folder location like Dropbox, iCloud, OneDrive etc, if this is what you meant, perhaps?!

    This will make your data accessible from another system, even if you were to encounter complete computer failure, for instance.
    In order to amend the backup file settings, you can choose Moneydance --> Preferences, then select the 'Backups' tab, as outlined in this article of the Knowledge Base.
    From this window, you can amend the backup location, and choose the maximum number of backups to be stored.

    I hope this information is helpful. Please let us know if you have further questions or need more assistance.

    --
    Maddy, Infinite Kind Support

  2. 2 Posted by Phillip Ross on 31 Jul, 2023 04:24 PM

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    I must have indicatefd the wrong thread. I need to install MoneyDance on Manjaro (linux Arch). The auto install doesn't work. i need instructions.

    Thanks.

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  3. Support Staff 3 Posted by Maddy on 02 Aug, 2023 09:15 AM

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    Are you trying to download Moneydance from our website directly on this page?

    Under the 'Linux' heading, select 'Download deb'.
    This will download the following file - moneydance_linux_amd64.deb

    You should be able to install the program using the .deb file.

    You could try to install the moneydance_linux_amd64.deb. as well as the “GDebi Package Installer” in terminal sudo apt install gdebi.

    Then you should see the GDebi Package Installer under the “Show Application” icon in tray.
    Make GDebi Package Installer a favorite.
    - Run GDebi Package Installer - Use 'File' dropdown 'Open' to locate moneydance_linux_amd64.deb, then highlight the file and click 'Open'. - After a delay the window will fill in with info on Moneydance. - Click Install Package. If you get the Authentication Required window, enter your Ubuntu password.

    After a delay Moneydance should install. Under the “Show Application” icon in tray, make Moneydance a favorite, so it will actually appears in the tray.

    Alternately once “GDebi Package Installer” is installed, double click on moneydance_linux_amd64.deb to open the Package Installer.

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  4. 4 Posted by Phillip Ross on 04 Aug, 2023 12:12 PM

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    When finished, MoneyDance is listed in the Menu, but it only opens a .deb package. And .deb packages are not advised on Manjaro. Again, MoneyDance is listed in the Arch AUR, but I need specific instructions on how to install it.

    On Aug 2 2023, at 1:58 pm, Phillip Ross <[email blocked]> wrote:
    Maddy,

    None of that works. Manjaro is Arch related, not Ubuntu related. There is no GDebi Package Installer.

    MoneyDance is listed in the AUR, but I need instructions on how to install it through the Terminal.

    On Aug 2 2023, at 5:15 am, Maddy <[email blocked]> wrote:
     

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    From: Maddy (Support staff)


    Are you trying to download Moneydance from our website directly on this page?


    Under the 'Linux' heading, select 'Download deb'.
    This will download the following file - moneydance_linux_amd64.deb


  5. 5 Posted by dwg on 04 Aug, 2023 12:44 PM

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    Manjaro doesn't support deb package so you would have to convert them.

    Moneydance provides a number of kits and when a distributions does not support deb or rpm, or if they are problematic it is recommended to use the .sh installer.

    This works much like the .exe file on Windows except it does not set up a icon in the GUI, however there is a script for that.

    Using the .sh installer is pretty straightforward.

    I've attached a sample session of an install I did some time back

  6. 6 Posted by Phillip Ross on 04 Aug, 2023 02:07 PM

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    I don't understand what I'm supposed to do, and I don't want to mess it up.

    Manjaro is adamant about using only approved installers/installations. And Moneydance is in the Arch AUR, which means that it is approved. My tech skills are limited, but I can follow directions when using the terminal. Surely there is a way to install Moneydance from the AUR, which will be the best way to guard against conflicts.
    Might this work? - https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/moneydance.sh?h=moneydance (https://link.getmailspring.com/link/[email blocked]/0?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Faur.archlinux.org%2Fcgit%2Faur.git%2Ftree%2Fmoneydance.sh%3Fh%3Dmoneydance&recipient=c3VwcG9ydEBpbmZpbml0ZWtpbmQuY29t)
    I have no idea what to do with it, but you might.

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  7. 7 Posted by dwg on 04 Aug, 2023 09:34 PM

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    The Arch kit has not been created by the Moneydance folks, hence they do not maintain it or support it. Some third party must have created this kit.

    If Manjaro is adamant that you must use their kit then the people behind it must provide the support.

    The only kits created by the company are those available on the company's website and the kits they have periodically provided to Apple, Microsoft and Amazon for sale at various times.

  8. 8 Posted by dwg on 04 Aug, 2023 09:59 PM

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    Let me refine this by saying that the people behind the kit should provide the support to install it. The Infinite Kind (Moneydance) cannot provide support to use an installation kit they did not create and thus have not provided or have any knowledge of.

    As for support in using the software once installed that would I think present no problem.

  9. 9 Posted by Phillip Ross on 05 Aug, 2023 04:54 PM

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    The problem is mine, but the opportunity is yours.

    Some thoughts: 1) If you are going to support Linux, you should support the major versions, and Arch is significant enough to warrant your attention. 2) You should be concerned that someone is providing your program in an unsupported format. Someone is doing it voluntarily, so don't sue them, hire them. 3) Missed sales opportunities in the Linux community.
    I'll continue on my Windows laptop until I figure it out. Let me know if you work it out.

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  10. 10 Posted by sprimost on 05 Aug, 2023 08:22 PM

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    From: sprimost (Definitely, not IK support!)

    I have MD working under Manjaro, and it is very happy! It is not that
    difficult to install, regardless whether IK supports Manjaro
    specifically, only that it supports LINUX generically.

    Yup, deb is for Ubuntu, and true, one could perform magic on it and
    install to Arch/Manjaro. But the easier way os to use the alternate
    install script. Just follow their instructions and you should be set. If
    you have issues/questions continue to post to this forum, and I'll be
    able to understand what problems you are having....

    /scp

  11. 11 Posted by Phillip Ross on 05 Aug, 2023 08:38 PM

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    spinmost:

    So I now have this file: moneydance_linux_amd64.sh
    What do I do with it? Please be specific, my linux is very limited.

    Phillip Ross

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  12. 12 Posted by sprimost on 05 Aug, 2023 09:16 PM

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    From: sprimost

    I would suggest the following:

    (1) create a directory (or subdirectory) and move the downloaded file to it.
    (2) using Dolphin (or any file manager...I have KDE on my machine),
    right click on file and make it executable in permissions.
    (3) I don't remember, whether to be in  in superuser mode or not, but
    open Konsole in the direcotry where the file is and type "sh <file
    name>. That should install MD and create an icon.

    I am not at my test computer to do the install, but I should have a more
    detailed instructions by tomorrow, when I get back.

    /SCP

    On 8/5/23 16:39, Phillip Ross wrote:

  13. 13 Posted by dwg on 06 Aug, 2023 03:41 AM

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    @Phillip Ross

    Some interesting observations, let me make some of my own.

    The Moneydance kits are the result of an automated build process, hence what is produced is somewhat dependent on what it can build and the resources required to manage the process and systems.

    Moneydance supports 3 core operating system; Windows, Mac and Linux and a number of architectures on each, at the moment each build produces some 15 different kits and currently each build consumes a total of about 2GB of storage. There is no data available but I suspect the relative use of Moneydance is probably not dissimilar to the market share of each, with perhaps Mac a little higher than its share would suggest and Windows a little lower.

    The Infinite Kind - TIK (Moneydance) does not support any particular distributions nor provide kits to any Linux repository, certain distributions will be routinely mentioned in the forums but that just reflects their usage, either by users or those that answer questions.

    There is nothing to stop someone downloading a kit and placing it in a repository, even modifying the kit, but that raises even more questions about such a repository that would allow or facilitate that. TIK approach it by recommending to download kits from the servers they provide, they cannot control the integrity and quality of any kit in any other repository, some will be well maintained others not so well. The only other control they have is over licensing of the software itself. Kits in the Apple and Microsoft stores are provided under a commercial arrangement.

    In the case of Linux four installation kits are provided for an architecture. For package managers RPM and DEB kits are provided. These are probably the best known packages and the most common with both having a long history, there are quite a number of other package types, including new ones like Flatpak and Snap but it becomes a matter of if it is worthwhile, there is a cost in providing a specific kit as opposed to using one of the generic kits, assuming you have a system that can build it.

    A Shell installer kit is also provided which should install on most systems, and I provided a sample of an installation using that in an earlier post, spinmost fundamentally summarizes a lot of that install.

    A tar.gz kit is also provided for a more manual install.

    Over the years I have used all four kits on a variety of distributions, none are particularly hard to use. Dependencies are not an issue as Moneydance include all it needs in the kit. and the main need is a compatible version of Java which is part of the bundle.

    dwg - A fellow customer

  14. 14 Posted by Phillip Ross on 07 Aug, 2023 12:33 PM

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    Here is the result from the terminal:

    $ sh moneydance_linux_amd64.sh
    Unpacking JRE ...
    Starting Installer ...

    (java:73986): Gtk-WARNING **: 08:26:48.859: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "murrine",
    (java:73986): Gtk-WARNING **: 08:26:48.859: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "murrine",
    (java:73986): Gtk-WARNING **: 08:26:48.859: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "murrine",
    (java:73986): Gtk-WARNING **: 08:26:48.859: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "murrine",
    (java:73986): Gtk-WARNING **: 08:26:48.859: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "murrine",
    (java:73986): Gtk-WARNING **: 08:26:48.859: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "murrine",
    (java:73986): Gtk-WARNING **: 08:26:48.859: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "murrine",
    The installer presented itself, and I followed the recommended locations. And it completed. But I don't find MoneyDance in the menu.
    Please advise.

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  15. 15 Posted by dwg on 07 Aug, 2023 12:50 PM

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    I don't recall the sh install creating a menu item, I'm not surprised since each desktop environment has its own way of creating menu items. I did my sample install on MATE and used the Mate method of adding an item to the menu system, in the directory you installed Moneydance into there should be a sh script to create a desktop icon.If you installed Moneydance into the default location that script along with some instructions are in the /opt/Moneydance folder

  16. 16 Posted by Phillip Ross on 07 Aug, 2023 01:29 PM

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    I'm sorry to sound like an idiot, but the instruction assumes that I know something that I don't know:

    "## Install
    If you installed the application via a package manager, it's ready to use in your system. Otherwise, first move the extracted directory into your desired directory (e.g. `/opt/moneydance) and follow the steps below."
    I don't have an /opt folder that I can find. And I don't know where my "desired directory" is supposed to be.
    Thank you for your patience.

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  17. 17 Posted by dwg on 07 Aug, 2023 01:46 PM

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    It sounds like you found the README.md file so that folder is where you installed Moneydance to. The readme could do with some expansion, the instruction to move the files is relevant if you used the tar.gz kit but if you use the shell installer it asked you where you want to put the files. The section of the read me file I was thinking of is the part about creating the Desktop Launcher in order to create an icon on the desktop.

  18. 18 Posted by Phillip Ross on 07 Aug, 2023 02:15 PM

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    That worked! Thank you!

    My initial problem was when I clicked on the https://infinitekind.com/stabledl/current/moneydance_linux_amd64.sh in Vivaldi (the default Manjaro browser) it opened the file in a tab. And I had no idea what to do with that. After much difficulty, I decided to try it with Firefox, and it downloaded the file.
    Now that I have it working, it seems like the instructions could be much clearer for us dummies.
    Anyway.... thanks!

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