Sync with MD 2012 Only Goes one Way

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drjoebav

Oct 19, 2012 @ 01:44 PM

I am trying out MD 2012 and using Dropbox. When I make a change on my iPhone 5 with iOS6, it shows up on the MD 2012 desktop app in about 2 minutes. But whenever I make a change on the desktop app, it never syncs with the iPhone app.

Any ideas how to get it working both ways? So far I love the app and want to switch to it but this is crucial for me to switch.

Joe

  1. 1 Posted by Angie Rauscher on Oct 23, 2012 @ 06:03 PM

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    Joe,

    This definitely isn't how it should be working. Could you please start out by letting me know what OS you're running as well as what version of the iPhone app you're running? Let me know and we'll go from there,

    Angie Rauscher
    Moneydance Support

  2. 2 Posted by Joe on Oct 24, 2012 @ 02:53 AM

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    It is working now - I just had to close and restart the iPhone app.

    By the way I purchased Moneydance - I have been using iBank since I left Quicken years ago, but never really liked it. Moneydance puts iBank to shame with speed, features, and syncing.

  3. Support Staff 3 Posted by Ethan on Oct 24, 2012 @ 03:55 AM

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    Hi Joe,

    Glad to hear that it's working again, and I'm happy to hear that you decided to purchase Moneydance! Please let us know if we can be of further assistance,

    Ethan Tupelo
    Moneydance Support

  4. Angie Rauscher closed this discussion on Oct 24, 2012 @ 07:25 AM.

  5. Joe Bavonese re-opened this discussion on Oct 24, 2012 @ 10:41 AM

  6. 4 Posted by Joe Bavonese on Oct 24, 2012 @ 10:41 AM

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    Thanks. One question - I keep getting a Java error message (see attached). I just click on OK and it's fine, but I'm wondering if there is some setting I need to know about to get rid of this. I'm on Mac OS X Mountain Lion.
    Joe

  7. Support Staff 5 Posted by Ethan on Oct 24, 2012 @ 12:12 PM

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    Hello Joe,

    Are you trying to do anything in particular when that error appears?

    Ethan Tupelo
    Moneydance Support

  8. 6 Posted by drjoebav on Oct 24, 2012 @ 12:25 PM

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    No it seems to happen quite randomly, maybe about every 3 - 5 minutes or
    so. I'm usually entering a new transaction when it happens.

  9. Support Staff 7 Posted by Ethan on Oct 26, 2012 @ 03:35 PM

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    Hello Joe,

    Based on your and other user's reports, we have discovered a bug with Moneydance 2012 that leads to this particular error. We believe we have located the cause of it, and are including a fix in the next update of Moneydance. I am unable to provide a specific date for when this will happen, but we are now in the testing phases of this release, so hopefully it will be soon.

    Ethan Tupelo
    Moneydance Support

  10. 8 Posted by drjoebav on Oct 26, 2012 @ 04:35 PM

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    Ok thanks, I'm glad to hear you found the bug and will wait for the update -

    Joe

  11. 9 Posted by Angie Rauscher on Nov 28, 2012 @ 06:17 PM

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    We've just released a public beta of Moneydance 2012.2 which we believe resolves this issue. You can get this beta of Moneydance 2012.2 from here:
    http://infinitekind.com/preview , and if you run into any problems with the beta or the issue continues please do let us know

    Angie Rauscher
    Moneydance Support

  12. 10 Posted by drjoebav on Feb 15, 2013 @ 05:22 AM

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    Thanks for this update. One problem: I have been syncing with DropBox, and when I try to open the file, in DropBox for Mac the Moneydance file is stored in a folder called .moneydance

    But this folder never shows up when I try to use FILE OPEN OTHER.

    How can I connect this DropBox file to the latest update of Moneydance on Mac?

  13. 11 Posted by james f on Feb 15, 2013 @ 11:41 AM

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    The folder named .moneydance is a hidden folder, hence the ( . ) before the name of the folder.

    You can unhide hidden folders by doing the following:

    Launch the Terminal and copy and paste these commands exactly as shown. The first command activates the ability to see the hidden files:

    defaults write com.apple.Finder AppleShowAllFiles TRUE

    Now you must relaunch the Finder by killing it, this is how the changes take effect:

    killall Finder

  14. 12 Posted by drjoebav on Feb 15, 2013 @ 02:48 PM

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    Ok I tried this. Now a bunch of hidden folders show up on my Desktop, but when I try to OPEN OTHER to link to my DropBox folder, none of the hidden files show up in the file window.

  15. 13 Posted by Scott Meehan on Feb 21, 2013 @ 06:36 PM

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    Hi Joe,

    Sorry for our delayed response! There should be a:

    .moneydancesync

    folder in your Dropbox folder if you're using Dropbox to sync Moneydance to one or more iOS devices, so I'm wondering if that's what you're talking about. Moneydance 2012 data sets have a .moneydance extension, but have something before the .moneydance portion, and the Moneydance 2011 and below preferences are stored in a folder called .moneydance in your home folder (they are still there on non Mac OS X operating systems), but that folder isn't in your Dropbox folder and you shouldn't need to access it anyway.

    If none of the above applies to you and you're just storing your data set(s) in a folder called .moneydance in your Dropbox folder, I'd suggest using the Dropbox iOS app or website interface to rename that folder to something that doesn't start with a '.', like just "moneydance, for example.

    Scott Meehan
    Moneydance Support

  16. 14 Posted by drjoebav on Feb 22, 2013 @ 05:19 PM

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    Thanks for the reply. I was able to remove the . from the DropBox folder,
    but then when I try to open a file it's all grayed out (see attached). My
    iPhone and iPad are synching perfectly with my prior version of Moneydance
    but I can't seem to get the update to sync with the correct file.

    There's no .md file I can find anywhere in DropBox or on my computer that
    is up to date.

    Joe

  17. 15 Posted by Scott Meehan on Feb 22, 2013 @ 07:04 PM

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    Hi Joe,

    The screenshot you sent is of Moneydance sync data, not your data set. There's some confusion in syncing, so to clarify, there are two things that are often described as Dropbox syncing--the first is for syncing Moneydance to iOS devices, which uses the .moneydancesync folder on Dropbox and contains the folders with UUID (Universally Unique Identifiers) names, the second is for sharing a data set on Dropbox with two or more computers, which technically isn't syncing (but is often referred to as syncing).

    The sync data that you're referring to in your screenshot isn't intended to be opened by Moneydance directly via the file manager, as you're trying to do--it's just used internally by Moneydance to sync the data. I would suggest renaming the .moneydancesync folder back to .moneydance sync, with the '.' in front.

    Can you send us the contents of your log file? This can be found by going to Help -> Console window in Moneydance, clicking the "Copy to clipboard" button and then pasting the output to us here.

    I'm wondering if you're encountering a bug in Dropbox syncing that was in an earlier version of Moneydance. If, when you go to the console log, you see a version of Moneydance that's earlier than 2012.5 (862), I would suggest downloading and upgrading to the latest version, located here:

    http://infinitekind.com/downloads

    Scott Meehan
    Moneydance Support

  18. 16 Posted by drjoebav on Feb 25, 2013 @ 12:44 AM

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    Thanks for the clarification re the different types of syncing. I was able
    to update to the newest version and get my desktop program syncing with my
    iPhone and iPad. Log file below (may not need to review it now).

    Only 1 more question: is it possible to have the Mac program open on more
    than 1 computer (I realize not at the same time, but it would be nice to
    have the possibility of updating on my desktop when at home and my laptop
    when on the road).

    Thanks again for the great support!

    Joe

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  19. 17 Posted by Scott Meehan on Feb 25, 2013 @ 01:43 AM

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    Hi Joe,

    Yes, it is possible to share a data set between two computers. To do that, I would suggest copying your data set to your Dropbox folder and then opening it from each computer, one at a time. If your data set is in Moneydance's internal Documents folder, then you can follow these instructions to move it:

    http://help.infinitekind.com/kb/moneydance-2012/how-to-move-your-da...

    Also, your log file indicates that you still have the Network Sync extension installed, which could conflict with Moneydance 2012's built-in Dropbox syncing. I would recommend remove the extension by going to Extensions -> Manage extensions, then scrolling down to the Network Sync extension and clicking the "Remove" button and then, if you haven't already, configure Dropbox syncing by going to File -> Syncing.

    Scott Meehan
    Moneydance Support

  20. 18 Posted by drjoebav on Feb 25, 2013 @ 08:10 PM

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    Awesome! I was able to do everything you mentioned, and it's all working
    perfectly. To me this is now the perfect solution - puts all over
    competitors to shame with the speed, customization and syncing.

    Thanks again,

    Joe

  21. 19 Posted by Scott Meehan on Feb 25, 2013 @ 11:58 PM

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    Hi Joe,

    Glad to hear that it's working well for you! Please let us know if we can be of further assistance!

    Scott Meehan
    Moneydance Support

  22. Scott Meehan closed this discussion on Feb 25, 2013 @ 11:58 PM.

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