MD creating loads of ticksync/out files to recycle bin

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Andy Maddison

25 Oct, 2021 07:43 PM

Hi

MD seems to be creating hundreds and hundreds of ticksync/out files and dumping them in my recycle bin. Looking at the time stamp on the files it seems its every couple of minutes so when the app is open for a long time there are hundreds of files. Why is MD doing this?

Andy

  1. 1 Posted by Stuart Beesley ... on 25 Oct, 2021 07:51 PM

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    Do you have Sync on or off?

    What Os? Windows?

    With sync on, they get consumed and moved into a .mdtxn file.

    With sync off they get left in the out directory (or maybe it’s the in dir, I can’t remember).

    I don’t think they should end up in recycle? Unless anyone else can correct me on that. Are you sure there isn’t something else doing this like av software?

    These files get created with every change to a MD record. They build up over time and/or are used for Sync.

  2. 2 Posted by Andy Maddison on 25 Oct, 2021 07:59 PM

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    I use MD on a laptop and a desktop both win10 and both sync with dropbox. It does seem to just be the desktop that is causing this issue as the app gets left open for long periods but usually with no changes being made. Both run McAfee av.

  3. 3 Posted by Andy Maddison on 25 Oct, 2021 08:32 PM

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    OK so I have MD open doing nothing, I am watching safe/ticksync/out in another window and it keeps creating a txn tmp file then it disappears and turns up in the bin???

  4. 4 Posted by dwg on 25 Oct, 2021 08:38 PM

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    I'm a fellow user.

    Moneydance does not use the recycle bin, it sounds like some other software is doing this, and that is a bad thing, you do not want other programs trying to "manage" Moneydance data.

  5. 5 Posted by Andy Maddison on 25 Oct, 2021 08:49 PM

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    Well something is going on, I have no idea where to start looking. It never used to do this it just started one day ?? took me a while to notice I kept getting loads of files in the bin. It’s the desktop for sure.

  6. 6 Posted by Stuart Beesley ... on 26 Oct, 2021 11:44 AM

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    Ok.
    Launch MD
    Menu help/show console. Keep this open.
    Make a txn change
    Press CTRL-S
    Go back to console.
    Copy and paste that log here.
    Now go to recycle and see if new txn file.
    Post the names here(do they match the names in the console log)?

  7. 7 Posted by sth on 27 Oct, 2021 02:46 AM

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    Try turning of McAfee for a bit and see what happens. This sounds like McAfee finding files and recycling them.

  8. 8 Posted by Andy Maddison on 27 Oct, 2021 08:23 AM

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    Right then lets see.. Hope I get this right

     

     

     

    Starting Moneydance 2021.1 (3069) at Wed Oct 27 09:15:15 BST 2021

    Settings Folder: C:\Users\Owner\.moneydance

    OS: Windows 10 10.0 amd64

    Java: 15.0.1 (AdoptOpenJDK)

    Is in sandbox: false; restricted file access: false

    Library path: c:\program files (x86)\moneydance\jre\bin;C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Oracle\Java\javapath;C:\ProgramData\Oracle\Java\javapath;C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live;C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\Windows Live;C:\Program Files (x86)\Intel\iCLS Client\;C:\Program Files\Intel\iCLS Client\;C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem;C:\WINDOWS\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;C:\Program Files\Intel\Intel(R) Management Engine Components\DAL;C:\Program Files\Intel\Intel(R) Management Engine Components\IPT;C:\Program Files (x86)\Intel\Intel(R) Management Engine Components\DAL;C:\Program Files (x86)\Intel\Intel(R) Management Engine Components\IPT;C:\Program Files (x86)\Intel\OpenCL SDK\2.0\bin\x86;C:\Program Files (x86)\Intel\OpenCL SDK\2.0\bin\x64;C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer;C:\Program Files (x86)\Windows Live\Shared;C:\WINDOWS\System32\OpenSSH\;C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Acronis\SnapAPI\;C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Acronis\VirtualFile\;C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Acronis\VirtualFile64\;C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Acronis\FileProtector\;C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Acronis\FileProtector64\;C:\Program Files\Crucial\Crucial Storage Executive;C:\Users\Owner\AppData\Local\Microsoft\WindowsApps;

    Initializing fonts:

      default: [[Dialog]]

      printing: [[Agency FB, Dialog]]

      monospaced: [[Calibri, Monospaced]]

      coding: [[Hack, Monospaced]]

    fonts resolved:

    default: Dialog:12.0:style0

    mono: Calibri:12.0:style0

    coding: Hack:12.0:style0

    print: Agency FB:12.0:style0

    header: Dialog:14.0:style0

    register: Dialog:11.0:style0

    reportTitle: Dialog:32.0:style0

    calendarTitle: Dialog:11.0:style0

    reportHeader: Dialog:10.0:style0

    detailTitle: Dialog:14.0:style0

    Setting look and feel class to com.sun.java.swing.plaf.windows.WindowsLookAndFeel

    opening last file: F:\Onedrive\Documents\.moneydance\Andy & Sue Moneydance.moneydance

    loading dataset: F:\Onedrive\Documents\.moneydance\Andy & Sue Moneydance.moneydance

    creatingURLStreamHandler for protocol 'http'

    loading with 128 bit encryption key

    reading trunk data tiksync/trunk

    trunk data loaded (0.579 seconds), checking for incremental updates

    loading un-synced txn files...

    loading synced txn files...

    replacing root: null () with new root: Andy & Sue (e05ef5bb-185a-4dcf-a090-5b76aac2029b

    starting syncing via encryptedFS(GenericFSSyncFolder:dropbox_folder:base=C:\Users\Owner\Dropbox\.moneydancesync:subpath=e0323a50-6ba2-4f77-8a9a-378a8b9dc451:)

    DATA: finished writing in 4.104 seconds

    DATA: renaming/pushing from temp file took an additional 0.002 seconds

      checking for txn logs...

      processing txn log: c6634f3a-e806-4293-aa15-d44f1540b453.txn

    Incoming netsync update:

      mod.txn:dt=20210625&0.desc=Tesco &0.pamt=-16.95&0.samt=16.95&chk=&memo=&id=99d4c77a-da7f-4906-af3c-72077542a009&acct=193&desc=Tesco &0.id=83924c7a-1480-486c-a415-4f5cb192e31a&0.acct=139&ts=1624603352417

    logging txn; file: tiksync/out/20211027081545_711.txn-tmp

    logging txn; file: tiksync/out/20211027081545_711.txn-tmp

    logging txn; file: tiksync/out/20211027081545_711.txn-tmp

    logging txn; file: tiksync/out/20211027081545_711.txn-tmp

    logging txn; file: tiksync/out/20211027081545_711.txn-tmp

    logging txn; file: tiksync/out/20211027081545_711.txn-tmp

    logging txn; file: tiksync/out/20211027081545_711.txn-tmp

    logging txn; file: tiksync/out/20211027081545_711.txn-tmp

    logging txn; file: tiksync/out/20211027081545_711.txn-tmp

    Incoming netsync update:

      682:

    Error reading synced transactions: java.lang.Exception: Unsupported action:682:

    java.lang.Exception: Unsupported action:682:

                    at com.moneydance.apps.md.controller.sync.SyncTxnReaderX.run(SyncTxnReaderX.java:164)

                    at com.moneydance.apps.md.controller.sync.DocumentFolderSyncer.applyTransactionFile(DocumentFolderSyncer.java:160)

                    at com.moneydance.apps.md.controller.sync.DocumentFolderSyncer.syncBetweenFolders(DocumentFolderSyncer.java:117)

                    at com.moneydance.apps.md.controller.sync.DocumentFolderSyncer.performSyncing(DocumentFolderSyncer.java:90)

                    at com.moneydance.apps.md.controller.AccountBookWrapper$DesktopBookSyncer.performPostSyncProcessing(AccountBookWrapper.java:147)

                    at com.infinitekind.tiksync.Syncer$SyncThread.run(Syncer.java:922)

    MDSYNC retrieved and applied 1 updates from mobile sync

    dropboxsync: saving state to sync folder: mdata-v1

    mobile sync completed in 70 ms

    set antialiasing to HRGB

    adding local txn file to upload buffer: tiksync/out/20211027081545_711.txn

    pushing transactions: >>>>>

    mod.txn:dtentered=1635322545708&chk=DirDeb&acctid=4f85bb70-80f0-47b9-9bdb-0b775a7dc7a3&memo=&0.obj_type=&oldid=-1&tags=&0.id=3a5ebb29-7bf3-487b-8667-d306c56cab5b&td=20211029&dt=20211029&0.desc=RMT&0.tags=&0.acctid=93d2c3e4-67f8-46f2-bc65-295ff517d27a&0.pamt=-2297&0.samt=2297&obj_type=txn&id=99757ea9-bfe2-480f-a954-53313ef3ff29.20211029&0.oldid=-1&desc=RMT&ts=1635322545711

    mod.reminder:weeklydays=0&sdt=20121001&txn.0.obj_type=&txn.0.desc=RMT&memo=&txn.td=20000301&type=1&oldid=29&acdays=3&txn.acctid=4f85bb70-80f0-47b9-9bdb-0b775a7dc7a3&txn.0.samt=2297&obj_type=reminder&txn.memo=&txn.0.id=a2fc9a4c-7c1c-497a-9e0c-630c9c19d36e&id=99757ea9-bfe2-480f-a954-53313ef3ff29&ackdt=20211029&weeklymod=0&txn.chk=DirDeb&txn.dtentered=1352318711527&txn.id=aea42ff2-97a8-42b3-b294-a7f5b303800d&txn.obj_type=txn&txn.0.oldid=-1&txn.dt=20000301&monthlymod=0&txn.oldid=-1&txn.desc=RMT&monthlydays=29&daily=0&txn.0.tags=&txn.0.pamt=-2297&txn.0.acctid=93d2c3e4-67f8-46f2-bc65-295ff517d27a&ldt=0&yearly=0&is_loan_reminder=0&desc=RMT&ts=1635322545722

    mod.txn:dtentered=1635322545739&chk=DirDeb&acctid=038ca504-215d-439f-a515-ea8499ed22a2&memo=&0.obj_type=&oldid=-1&tags=&0.id=fd77717e-e52b-425c-b6ab-ae823578763a&td=20211030&dt=20211030&0.desc=Netflix&0.tags=&0.acctid=4361f390-0c10-4f11-a306-770edde5907b&0.pamt=-999&0.samt=999&obj_type=txn&id=5c2f2ebf-addd-4b51-b738-60d1aa09a7f1.20211030&0.oldid=-1&desc=Netflix&ts=1635322545740

    mod.reminder:weeklydays=0&sdt=20210130&txn.0.obj_type=&txn.0.desc=Netflix&memo=&txn.td=20000504&type=1&oldid=-1&acdays=3&txn.acctid=038ca504-215d-439f-a515-ea8499ed22a2&txn.0.samt=999&obj_type=reminder&txn.memo=&txn.0.id=96afb609-f39e-4406-bda7-33ff16479d48&id=5c2f2ebf-addd-4b51-b738-60d1aa09a7f1&ackdt=20211030&weeklymod=0&txn.chk=DirDeb&txn.dtentered=1614605781603&txn.id=9aa3f209-ce43-439e-a1fc-a93a82abc8cb&txn.obj_type=txn&txn.0.oldid=-1&txn.dt=0&monthlymod=0&txn.oldid=-1&txn.desc=Netflix&monthlydays=30&daily=0&txn.0.tags=&txn.0.pamt=-999&txn.0.acctid=4361f390-0c10-4f11-a306-770edde5907b&ldt=0&yearly=0&is_loan_reminder=0&desc=Netflix&ts=1635322545758

    mod.txn:dtentered=1635322545761&chk=Dep&acctid=94a04878-f5af-4845-902e-07c31a8c2e75&memo=Mr Ebrima Samba&0.obj_type=&oldid=-1&tags=&0.id=7d8201d4-a291-4fe7-9d14-2348d944f9b4&td=20211030&dt=20211030&0.desc=Dudley Close Rental Income&0.tags=&0.acctid=157b6ec2-5765-4373-b7e4-c28e2894af3c&0.pamt=73000&0.samt=-73000&obj_type=txn&id=0690bb44-51f5-435c-981d-7baea2e379f1.20211030&0.oldid=-1&desc=Dudley Close Rental Income&ts=1635322545761

    mod.reminder:weeklydays=0&sdt=20141128&txn.0.obj_type=&txn.0.desc=Dudley Close Rental Income&memo=&txn.td=20191230&type=1&oldid=41&acdays=3&txn.acctid=94a04878-f5af-4845-902e-07c31a8c2e75&txn.0.samt=-73000&obj_type=reminder&txn.memo=Mr Ebrima Samba&txn.0.id=a7335288-a6f6-46f3-8c2a-b91fcd28c157&id=0690bb44-51f5-435c-981d-7baea2e379f1&ackdt=20211030&weeklymod=0&txn.chk=Dep&txn.dtentered=1400676285037&txn.id=c9feb2f1-2b96-4169-921f-5986ece8ccd9&txn.obj_type=txn&txn.0.oldid=-1&txn.dt=20191230&monthlymod=0&txn.oldid=-1&txn.desc=Dudley Close Rental Income&monthlydays=30&daily=0&txn.0.pamt=73000&txn.0.acctid=157b6ec2-5765-4373-b7e4-c28e2894af3c&ldt=0&yearly=0&is_loan_reminder=0&desc=Dudley Close Rental Income&ts=1635322545771

    mod.txn:dtentered=1635322545775&chk=DirDeb&acctid=4f85bb70-80f0-47b9-9bdb-0b775a7dc7a3&memo=Sue life insurance&0.obj_type=&oldid=-1&tags=&0.id=a8d52c0f-d280-43f7-81b0-1716f3091891&td=20211028&dt=20211028&0.desc=AGEAS Protect&0.tags=&0.acctid=297834fe-a585-4cd0-88de-3c188d5b646e&0.pamt=-8410&0.samt=8410&obj_type=txn&id=b1248625-a364-46ac-9fbb-9d1bdfc3d9a8.20211028&0.oldid=-1&desc=AGEAS Protect&ts=1635322545776

    mod.reminder:weeklydays=0&sdt=20130628&txn.0.obj_type=&txn.0.desc=AGEAS Protect&memo=&txn.td=20191028&type=1&oldid=36&acdays=1&txn.acctid=4f85bb70-80f0-47b9-9bdb-0b775a7dc7a3&txn.0.samt=8410&obj_type=reminder&txn.memo=Sue life insurance&txn.0.id=e0fee703-5651-413a-aedd-96777e6e1f44&id=b1248625-a364-46ac-9fbb-9d1bdfc3d9a8&ackdt=20211028&weeklymod=0&txn.chk=DirDeb&txn.dtentered=1371479045650&txn.id=6800c184-37c5-45ca-85ed-8d4a0e9f55ed&txn.obj_type=txn&txn.0.oldid=-1&txn.dt=20191028&monthlymod=0&txn.oldid=-1&txn.desc=AGEAS Protect&monthlydays=28&daily=0&txn.0.pamt=-8410&txn.0.acctid=297834fe-a585-4cd0-88de-3c188d5b646e&ldt=0&yearly=0&is_loan_reminder=0&desc=AGEAS Life insurance&ts=1635322545789

    mod.txn:dtentered=1625897155132&acctid=1519bdf2-1a96-4d55-a993-af43c7581edc&memo=&oldid=-1&netsync.ts=1624603352417&0.id=e2c7fb58-7f45-40c2-820b-8c4e433199a8&dt=20210625&0.desc=Tesco &0.acctid=d787fb69-39c7-42d4-95f4-4c2ebc87c10b&0.samt=1695&obj_type=txn&id=0a9ab032-4f42-4d9d-9e3b-c9d0079317a7&stat=X&netsync.newtxnentry=mod.txn:dt%3D20210625%260.desc%3DTesco %260.pamt%3D-16.95%260.samt%3D16.95%26chk%3D%26memo%3D%26id%3D99d4c77a-da7f-4906-af3c-72077542a009%26acct%3D193%26desc%3DTesco %260.id%3D83924c7a-1480-486c-a415-4f5cb192e31a%260.acct%3D139%26ts%3D1624603352417&chk=&0.obj_type=&0.netsync.txnid=83924c7a-1480-486c-a415-4f5cb192e31a&td=20210625&0.tags=&netsync.txnid=99d4c77a-da7f-4906-af3c-72077542a009&0.pamt=-1695&0.oldid=-1&desc=Tesco &ts=1635322545793

     

    <<<< pushing transactions

    there are txns to buffer in the outgoing file (numbytes:5118)

    uploading buffer file to syncFolder

    nio atomic move failed. Reverting to old-fashioned copy-and-move. Errors were: e1:java.nio.file.FileSystemException: F:\Onedrive\Documents\.moneydance\Andy & Sue Moneydance.moneydance\safe\tiksync\uploadbuf -> F:\Onedrive\Documents\.moneydance\Andy & Sue Moneydance.moneydance\safe\tiksync\in\869cd9cd-d287-4ac1-9b06-96ffe59c0009.mdtxn: The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process; e2:java.nio.file.FileSystemException: F:\Onedrive\Documents\.moneydance\Andy & Sue Moneydance.moneydance\safe\tiksync\uploadbuf -> F:\Onedrive\Documents\.moneydance\Andy & Sue Moneydance.moneydance\safe\tiksync\in\869cd9cd-d287-4ac1-9b06-96ffe59c0009.mdtxn: The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process

    local file is newer than sync file. local=Wed Oct 27 09:16:21 BST 2021 synced=Wed Oct 27 09:15:45 BST 2021

      checking for txn logs...

      processing txn log: c6634f3a-e806-4293-aa15-d44f1540b453.txn

    Incoming netsync update:

      mod.txn:dt=20210625&0.desc=Tesco &0.pamt=-16.95&0.samt=16.95&chk=&memo=&id=99d4c77a-da7f-4906-af3c-72077542a009&acct=193&desc=Tesco &0.id=83924c7a-1480-486c-a415-4f5cb192e31a&0.acct=139&ts=1624603352417

    logging txn; file: tiksync/out/20211027081627_677.txn-tmp

    Incoming netsync update:

      682:

    Error reading synced transactions: java.lang.Exception: Unsupported action:682:

    java.lang.Exception: Unsupported action:682:

                    at com.moneydance.apps.md.controller.sync.SyncTxnReaderX.run(SyncTxnReaderX.java:164)

                    at com.moneydance.apps.md.controller.sync.DocumentFolderSyncer.applyTransactionFile(DocumentFolderSyncer.java:160)

                    at com.moneydance.apps.md.controller.sync.DocumentFolderSyncer.syncBetweenFolders(DocumentFolderSyncer.java:117)

                    at com.moneydance.apps.md.controller.sync.DocumentFolderSyncer.performSyncing(DocumentFolderSyncer.java:90)

                    at com.moneydance.apps.md.controller.AccountBookWrapper$DesktopBookSyncer.performPostSyncProcessing(AccountBookWrapper.java:147)

                    at com.infinitekind.tiksync.Syncer$SyncThread.run(Syncer.java:922)

    MDSYNC retrieved and applied 1 updates from mobile sync

    dropboxsync: saving state to sync folder: mdata-v1

    mobile sync completed in 30 ms

    adding local txn file to upload buffer: tiksync/out/20211027081627_677.txn

    pushing transactions: >>>>>

    mod.txn:dtentered=1625897155132&acctid=1519bdf2-1a96-4d55-a993-af43c7581edc&memo=&oldid=-1&netsync.ts=1624603352417&0.id=e2c7fb58-7f45-40c2-820b-8c4e433199a8&dt=20210625&0.desc=Tesco &0.acctid=d787fb69-39c7-42d4-95f4-4c2ebc87c10b&0.samt=1695&obj_type=txn&id=0a9ab032-4f42-4d9d-9e3b-c9d0079317a7&stat=X&netsync.newtxnentry=mod.txn:dt%3D20210625%260.desc%3DTesco %260.pamt%3D-16.95%260.samt%3D16.95%26chk%3D%26memo%3D%26id%3D99d4c77a-da7f-4906-af3c-72077542a009%26acct%3D193%26desc%3DTesco %260.id%3D83924c7a-1480-486c-a415-4f5cb192e31a%260.acct%3D139%26ts%3D1624603352417&chk=&0.obj_type=&0.netsync.txnid=83924c7a-1480-486c-a415-4f5cb192e31a&td=20210625&0.tags=&netsync.txnid=99d4c77a-da7f-4906-af3c-72077542a009&0.pamt=-1695&0.oldid=-1&desc=Tesco &ts=1635322587677

     

    <<<< pushing transactions

    there are txns to buffer in the outgoing file (numbytes:765)

    uploading buffer file to syncFolder

    nio atomic move failed. Reverting to old-fashioned copy-and-move. Errors were: e1:java.nio.file.FileSystemException: F:\Onedrive\Documents\.moneydance\Andy & Sue Moneydance.moneydance\safe\tiksync\uploadbuf -> F:\Onedrive\Documents\.moneydance\Andy & Sue Moneydance.moneydance\safe\tiksync\in\6731b61d-9b47-4172-a972-8a369d2c7c0b.mdtxn: The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process; e2:java.nio.file.FileSystemException: F:\Onedrive\Documents\.moneydance\Andy & Sue Moneydance.moneydance\safe\tiksync\uploadbuf -> F:\Onedrive\Documents\.moneydance\Andy & Sue Moneydance.moneydance\safe\tiksync\in\6731b61d-9b47-4172-a972-8a369d2c7c0b.mdtxn: The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another process

    local file is newer than sync file. local=Wed Oct 27 09:17:03 BST 2021 synced=Wed Oct 27 09:16:27 BST 2021

      checking for txn logs...

      processing txn log: c6634f3a-e806-4293-aa15-d44f1540b453.txn

    Incoming netsync update:

      mod.txn:dt=20210625&0.desc=Tesco &0.pamt=-16.95&0.samt=16.95&chk=&memo=&id=99d4c77a-da7f-4906-af3c-72077542a009&acct=193&desc=Tesco &0.id=83924c7a-1480-486c-a415-4f5cb192e31a&0.acct=139&ts=1624603352417

    logging txn; file: tiksync/out/20211027081709_399.txn-tmp

    Incoming netsync update:

      682:

    Error reading synced transactions: java.lang.Exception: Unsupported action:682:

    java.lang.Exception: Unsupported action:682:

                    at com.moneydance.apps.md.controller.sync.SyncTxnReaderX.run(SyncTxnReaderX.java:164)

                    at com.moneydance.apps.md.controller.sync.DocumentFolderSyncer.applyTransactionFile(DocumentFolderSyncer.java:160)

                    at com.moneydance.apps.md.controller.sync.DocumentFolderSyncer.syncBetweenFolders(DocumentFolderSyncer.java:117)

                    at com.moneydance.apps.md.controller.sync.DocumentFolderSyncer.performSyncing(DocumentFolderSyncer.java:90)

                    at com.moneydance.apps.md.controller.AccountBookWrapper$DesktopBookSyncer.performPostSyncProcessing(AccountBookWrapper.java:147)

                    at com.infinitekind.tiksync.Syncer$SyncThread.run(Syncer.java:922)

    MDSYNC retrieved and applied 1 updates from mobile sync

    dropboxsync: saving state to sync folder: mdata-v1

    mobile sync completed in 30 ms

    logging txn; file: tiksync/out/20211027081717_776.txn-tmp

    Command-S received, saving file

  9. 9 Posted by Andy Maddison on 27 Oct, 2021 08:29 AM

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    Ok so that was the log bit long I am afraid.

     

    Its still dumping stuff to the bin as follows

     

    20211027081545_711.txn at 09.17

    20211027081627_677.txn at 09.17

    20211027081743_503.txn at 09.18

    20211027081912_562.txn at 09.20

     

     

    That’s so far it just keeps going all day if you let it

     

     

    Andy

  10. 10 Posted by Andy Maddison on 27 Oct, 2021 08:30 AM

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    Could do but its set up the same on laptop with McAfee and its fine

  11. 11 Posted by dwg on 27 Oct, 2021 08:58 AM

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    I'm a fellow user.

    From my perspective you have significant configuration issue, it is represented in the line:

    loading dataset: F:\Onedrive\Documents\.moneydance\Andy & Sue Moneydance.moneydance

    Moneydance data sets should not be stored on any type of network device, including, One Drive, google drive, iCloud, network shares etc

    This is because the way it reads/write data sets is not compatible with how these services handles files, there have been many reports of data corruption when data is stored on these types of services.

    The syncing data is different, the way it handles files is compatible with network devices.

    It is also perfectly fine to write backups to devices like one drive.

  12. 12 Posted by Stuart Beesley ... on 27 Oct, 2021 09:45 AM

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    I agree with dwg... it's clear from your log that .txn files are being locked and moved whilst MD is trying to process them... It could be AV, but more likely it's OneDrive playing around with data...

    I suggest you urgently relocate your dataset to your hard drive and try again... You can still use Sync and you can still set backups to OneDrive...

    I hope your two computers are NOT opening the same OneDrive Dataset..?!

  13. 13 Posted by Andy Maddison on 27 Oct, 2021 09:46 AM

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    Ok good to know, I have always used OneDrive for everything and its never caused me an issue yet but that’s not to say it’s the problem now. When I have a moment spare I will move the MD file over to a non-OneDrive folder and see if it improves.

  14. 14 Posted by Andy Maddison on 27 Oct, 2021 09:49 AM

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    I hope your two computers are NOT opening the same OneDrive Dataset..?!

    Oh dear…. Opps

    So yes for years I have had MD on my PC and Laptop also the mobile app on 2 phones all working the same data file. To be fair this set up has worked flawlessly for me for years.

  15. 15 Posted by Andy Maddison on 27 Oct, 2021 09:51 AM

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    OK going to try a quick workaround test before I start moving files and causing chaos. I will disable OneDrive for a bit and try again.

  16. 16 Posted by dwg on 27 Oct, 2021 10:03 AM

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    Prior to Moneydance 2017 you shared data between computers by placing the data set on dropbox. There were caveats and restrictions but it worked. Dropbox was the only supported service for this.

    This changed when the syncing engine was introduced with Moneydance 2017, with further development in the way Moneydance handles data the incidence of problems being caused by using services like Dropbox to store the data sets rose. but with the Syncing engine the reason to store the data sets on such services was eliminated and as such the limitations and caveats of using such a service were removed.

  17. 17 Posted by Andy Maddison on 27 Oct, 2021 10:28 AM

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    Ok so quick recap, I paused OneDrive sync and that stopped the flow of files to the bin that’s good. However while watching an explorer window of tick sync out it still creates a file every couple of minutes then it vanishes.

     

    I can move my MD file to a non-OneDrive folder also good

     

    Can I still use Dropbox for the sync ?

     

    Now the question….. I want to be able to use MD on PC and Laptop (Not at the same time) and have the phone apps all use the same file and sync nicely so when I make a change in my Office(PC) it will later sync to show it to me on my laptop(near the beer fridge).

     

    I feel we may be getting somewhere now cheers guys

  18. 18 Posted by Stuart Beesley ... on 27 Oct, 2021 11:02 AM

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    1 - you can move dataset to local drive..
    2. Yes you can still use dropbox and this will just carry on anyway
    3. Yes, sync will be just fine with your scenario.....

  19. 19 Posted by Andy Maddison on 27 Oct, 2021 11:05 AM

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    Mad now….Grr

     

    Checking my version number I was on 2021.1 (3069)

     

    I saw there was a new version so I thought can’t hurt right? No warning this was to cost me a new licence….nice

     

    So I am on 2022.1(4058) and £22.27 lighter and the issue still remains looks like I will have to move my data file to a non-OneDrive location, but on the PC it is still creating these files all the time?

  20. 20 Posted by Stuart Beesley ... on 27 Oct, 2021 11:08 AM

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    Yes, Sync will always create these files... This is fine... Your issue is OneDrive trying to recycle them.... Please relocate your dataset to local drive...

  21. 21 Posted by Andy Maddison on 27 Oct, 2021 12:04 PM

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    Ok think I have a grip on this now.

     

    New folders “local” for MD data have been created (Not OneDrive) on both laptop and Desktop

    Data Moved and MD redirected to new location

     

    New folder for backups created containing Laptop backup and a Desktop backup (this is on OneDrive)

    Backups redirected

     

    I am just waiting for everything to catch up and I will have a test later (got to cut grass now)

     

    Thanks for the help guys I will update on here later how it all goes

     

    Andy

  22. 22 Posted by Andy Maddison on 27 Oct, 2021 03:35 PM

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    Thanks to all my ticksync problem seems to have gone away.

     

    Good advice from you guys problem solved

     

    Cheers

     

    Andy

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