Moneydance won't display on one account

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jwp.perry

08 May, 2023 03:44 PM

wondering if anyone has a solution to this problem. I have two user accounts on Moneydance, myself and my wife's. When I open Moneydance it opens my account without a problem however when I attempt to switch to my wife's account, my account closes but when I try to open my wife's it visually disappears. I have re-installed MD without any change, moneydance.exe appears to be running on task manager.

  1. 1 Posted by Stuart Beesley ... on 08 May, 2023 04:19 PM

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    Do you mean that MD crashes/quits/exits?

    If so, after this happens, find errlog.txt file on disk and upload here (BEFORE YOU RESTART MD).

    Or, if MD is still working, go to the Help menu, Console. Grab the output and upload here.

  2. 2 Posted by jwp.perry on 08 May, 2023 05:17 PM

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    It is weird I can work on the first file without incidence then when I try
    to switch to the other, a little flash and everything disappears and I
    cannot reload???

  3. 3 Posted by Stuart Beesley ... on 08 May, 2023 05:33 PM

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    Remove the StockGlance extension then try again....

  4. 4 Posted by jwp.perry on 08 May, 2023 06:13 PM

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    Removed StockGlance and works perfectly now, thank you

  5. 5 Posted by Stuart Beesley ... on 08 May, 2023 06:44 PM

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    Now try updating the extn?

  6. 6 Posted by jwp.perry on 08 May, 2023 08:16 PM

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    Ok, I installed the extn, and it reverted to the same old problem so I Will
    remove it.

  7. Support Staff 7 Posted by Maddy on 09 May, 2023 01:52 PM

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    You log is showing a Padding error.
    In order to correct the problem you could:

    1) Ensure that your data file is stored in the default location

    2) Restore from a back up

    • To relocate your data file:

    • Navigate to Extensions->Manage Extensions and install the Toolbox.

    • Select the Update function (from within the Toolbox) and navigate to Menu: General Tools->Relocate this dataset back to the default 'internal' location.

    • if you choose to restore from a backup, you should choose File --> Restore from Backup (or 'Import New Account Set' from the Welcome window). Then navigate to and select the backup file.

    If you'd like to re-name the restored file, you can follow the steps in this article from the knowledge base.

    It's important you close the Moneydance program fully before you make any changes.

    Then change the data file name to whatever you want - just be sure to retain the .moneydance file extension at the end of the file name.

    I hope this information is helpful. Please let us know if you have further questions or need more assistance.

    --
    Maddy, Infinite Kind Support

  8. 8 Posted by jwp.perry on 09 May, 2023 02:03 PM

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    Actually Beezly (mr. toolbox) solved my problem. He told me to delete
    extension StockGlance. I removed it and all is working well except I cannot
    use that extension because when I reloaded it, the same problem occurred -
    so I just uninstalled it

  9. 9 Posted by Jim Larus on 09 May, 2023 03:00 PM

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    I've fixed this problem in StockGlance.

    I can't reproduce your situation exactly with the two accounts, so it would be great if you could install the updated StockGlance when Sean uploads it.

  10. 10 Posted by jwp.perry on 09 May, 2023 04:38 PM

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    Will do, just let me know when the new version is available

  11. 11 Posted by Jim Larus on 09 May, 2023 08:39 PM

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    If you reinstall StockGlance, you should get the new one (version 12). Let
    me know what happens.

    Best
    Jim

  12. 12 Posted by jwp.perry on 09 May, 2023 09:13 PM

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    Sorry, as soon as I tried to switch users, the Moneydance screen just
    disappeared

  13. 13 Posted by jwp.perry on 09 May, 2023 09:22 PM

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    Also fyi, the only way to execute it is to shut the pc down and restart

  14. 14 Posted by Jim Larus on 10 May, 2023 03:49 AM

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    Can you send me the console log again?

    Thx
    Jim

  15. 15 Posted by jwp.perry on 10 May, 2023 10:36 AM

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    From: Jim Larus <[email blocked]>
    Sent: May 9, 2023 11:50 PM
    To: [email blocked]
    Subject: Re: Moneydance won't display on one account [Problems #90523]

     

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    Can you send me the console log again?

    Thx
    Jim

    On Tue, May 09 at 02:22 PM PDT, jwp.perry wrote:

    Also fyi, the only way to execute it is to shut the pc down and restart

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  16. 16 Posted by Jim Larus on 10 May, 2023 10:52 AM

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    The log does not show that StockGlance is being loaded — only 3 extensions
    (toolbox, txt import, and yahooqt). Nor does it show an exception in any
    part of the program?

    Is this the log after you restart the PC?

    I’m a bit confused as to what is happening.

    Jim

    On Wed, 10 May 2023 at 12:36 jwp.perry <[email blocked]>
    wrote:

  17. 17 Posted by jwp.perry on 10 May, 2023 11:36 AM

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    I have 7 extensions installed: Find and Replace, Import List, quote loader, quotes and exchange rates updater, security price entry, text import, Toolbox

     

    As you requested I installed StockGlance after you modified it. I tested it and it did not work for me. When I changed users there was a little flash and Moneydance disappeared completely and I could not use it. I had to reboot in order to run MD. Then I had to remove the StockGlance extension in order to use the MD application properly. That was last evening, I sent you the error file as it was this morning. So as it sits right now, the StockGlance ext has been removed so I can use MD

     

    From: Jim Larus <[email blocked]>
    Sent: May 10, 2023 6:52 AM
    To: [email blocked]
    Subject: Re: Moneydance won't display on one account [Problems #90523]

     

    // Please reply above this line
    ==================================================

    From: Jim Larus

    The log does not show that StockGlance is being loaded — only 3 extensions
    (toolbox, txt import, and yahooqt). Nor does it show an exception in any
    part of the program?

    Is this the log after you restart the PC?

    I’m a bit confused as to what is happening.

    Jim

    On Wed, 10 May 2023 at 12:36 jwp.perry <[email blocked] <mailto:[email blocked]> >
    wrote:

    On Wed, May 10 at 03:36 AM PDT, jwp.perry wrote:

  18. 18 Posted by Stuart Beesley ... on 10 May, 2023 11:46 AM

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    Can you launch Help/Console.
    Click the clear button until it's empty.
    KEEP console open.
    Now install StockGlance again
    Whatever happens, tab back to the console..
    Copy the new output,
    post that here. Thanks

  19. 19 Posted by jwp.perry on 10 May, 2023 11:59 AM

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    trying to verify external module: stockglance

    trying to verify external module: stockglance

    initialized extension stockglance in 0.016 seconds

     

    From: Stuart Beesley (Mr Toolbox) <[email blocked]>
    Sent: May 10, 2023 7:47 AM
    To: [email blocked]
    Subject: Re: Moneydance won't display on one account [Problems #90523]

     

    // Please reply above this line
    ==================================================

    From: Stuart Beesley (Mr Toolbox)

    Can you launch Help/Console.
    Click the clear button until it's empty.
    KEEP console open.
    Now install StockGlance again
    Whatever happens, tab back to the console..
    Copy the new output,
    post that here. Thanks

    On Wed, May 10 at 04:36 AM PDT, jwp.perry wrote:

    I have 7 extensions installed: Find and Replace, Import List, quote loader, quotes and exchange rates updater, security price entry, text import, Toolbox

     

    As you requested I installed StockGlance after you modified it. I tested it and it did not work for me. When I changed users there was a little flash and Moneydance disappeared completely and I could not use it. I had to reboot in order to run MD. Then I had to remove the StockGlance extension in order to use the MD application properly. That was last evening, I sent you the error file as it was this morning. So as it sits right now, the StockGlance ext has been removed so I can use MD

  20. 20 Posted by jwp.perry on 10 May, 2023 12:01 PM

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    Sorry, it is sleepy:

    trying to verify external module: stockglance

    trying to verify external module: stockglance

    initialized extension stockglance in 0.016 seconds

    toolbox:2023/05/10-07:59:03:

    -----------------------------------------------------

    JVM - Maximum memory possible: 1.1 GB

    JVM - Total memory allocated: 0.7 GB (used 0.4 GB / free 0.3 GB)

    -----------------------------------------------------

     

     

    Quote Load>INFO:08:00:00-pool-5-thread-1(Quote Load,sendAuto) Check Auto without delay

    Quote Load>SUMM:08:00:00-AWT-EventQueue-0(Quote Load,invoke) Command checkauto

    Quote Load>INFO:08:00:00-AWT-EventQueue-0(Quote Load,sendAuto) now 08:00:00.750688100 next 2023-05-10T09:00

     

    From: Stuart Beesley (Mr Toolbox) <[email blocked]>
    Sent: May 10, 2023 7:47 AM
    To: [email blocked]
    Subject: Re: Moneydance won't display on one account [Problems #90523]

     

    // Please reply above this line
    ==================================================

    From: Stuart Beesley (Mr Toolbox)

    Can you launch Help/Console.
    Click the clear button until it's empty.
    KEEP console open.
    Now install StockGlance again
    Whatever happens, tab back to the console..
    Copy the new output,
    post that here. Thanks

    On Wed, May 10 at 04:36 AM PDT, jwp.perry wrote:

    I have 7 extensions installed: Find and Replace, Import List, quote loader, quotes and exchange rates updater, security price entry, text import, Toolbox

     

    As you requested I installed StockGlance after you modified it. I tested it and it did not work for me. When I changed users there was a little flash and Moneydance disappeared completely and I could not use it. I had to reboot in order to run MD. Then I had to remove the StockGlance extension in order to use the MD application properly. That was last evening, I sent you the error file as it was this morning. So as it sits right now, the StockGlance ext has been removed so I can use MD

  21. 21 Posted by Stuart Beesley ... on 10 May, 2023 12:33 PM

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    Keep console open. Now click on an account on the left side bar, then click back to the home page/summary screen.. Anything new in console?

    PS - best to reply by clicking the link and entering on this website rather than email reply...

  22. 22 Posted by jwp.perry on 10 May, 2023 12:35 PM

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    Again, after I tried to change users accounts (StockGlance was installed) then MD visually disappeared. I had to reboot PC, Load MD, delete Stockglance in order to keep using. Here is the console date after doing that:

    Starting Moneydance 2023.1 (5006) at Wed May 10 08:28:28 EDT 2023

    Settings Folder: C:\Users\jackw\.moneydance

    OS: Windows 10 10.0 amd64

    Architecture: intel64

    Java: 17.0.3 (Eclipse Adoptium)

    Is in sandbox: false; restricted file access: false

    Library path: c:\program files\moneydance\jre\bin;C:\Windows\system32;C:\Windows;C:\Windows\System32\Wbem;C:\Windows\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;C:\Windows\System32\OpenSSH\;C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Acronis\VirtualFile\;C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Acronis\VirtualFile64\;C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files\Acronis\SnapAPI\;C:\Program Files\Crucial\Crucial Storage Executive;C:\Program Files (x86)\Endless Slideshow Screensaver;C:\Program Files\dotnet\;C:\Users\jackw\AppData\Local\Microsoft\WindowsApps;

    initialized extension moneyforesight in 0.236 seconds

    findandreplace (0): 05-10 08:28:28.503|Initialized build 1215 ok

    initialized extension findandreplace in 0.029 seconds

    Font initialisation attempted from non-UI thread. Hopping over to dispatch thread...

    Initializing fonts:

      default: [[Dialog]]

      printing: [[Agency FB, Dialog]]

      monospaced: [[Calibri, Monospaced]]

      coding: [[Hack, Monospaced]]

    fonts resolved:

    default: Dialog:17.0:style0

    mono: Calibri:17.0:style0

    coding: Hack:17.0:style0

    print: Agency FB:12.0:style0

    header: Dialog:19.0:style0

    register: Dialog:16.0:style0

    reportTitle: Dialog:32.0:style0

    calendarTitle: Dialog:16.0:style0

    reportHeader: Dialog:15.0:style0

    detailTitle: Dialog:19.0:style0

    Setting look and feel class to com.sun.java.swing.plaf.windows.WindowsLookAndFeel

    Font initialisation attempted from non-UI thread. Hopping over to dispatch thread...

    initialized extension importlist in 1.069 seconds

    initialized extension priceui in 0.0 seconds

    Quote Load>INFO:08:28:29-main(Quote Load,Init) Started Build 3201.01

    initialized extension securityquoteload in 0.031 seconds

    Quote Load>INFO:08:28:29-main(Quote Load,Init) Locale en_CA

    initialized extension stockglance in 0.0 seconds

    python.path: C:\Users\jackw\.moneydance\python

    python.cachedir: C:\Users\jackw\.moneydance\python\cache

    python.cachedir.skip: false

    toolbox:2023/05/10-08:28:33:

    #############################################################################################################################

    toolbox: toolbox_init.py initializer script running - performing some quick checks, logging diagnostics, then will exit....

    #############################################################################################################################

     

    initialized extension toolbox in 0.432 seconds

    initialized extension txtimport in 0.0 seconds

    initialized extension yahooqt in 0.035 seconds

    opening last file: JWPerry

    loading dataset: C:\Users\jackw\.moneydance\Documents\JWPerry.moneydance

    set antialiasing to HRGB

    loading with 128 bit encryption key

    loading with 128 bit encryption key

    reading trunk data tiksync/trunk

    trunk data loaded (1.613 seconds), checking for incremental updates

    loading un-synced txn files...

    reading txn file 20230510115712_776.txn

    reading txn file 20230510120705_918.txn

    reading txn file 20230510121706_400.txn

    reading txn file 20230510122106_618.txn

    reading txn file 20230510122306_713.txn

    loading synced txn files...

    replacing root: null () with new root: Test Transfers (edb833b5-0caf-4302-8ed8-c1a239a97347

    toolbox:2023/05/10-08:28:43:

    -----------------------------------------------------

    Toolbox - quick information:

    -----

    MD CONSOLE FILE LOCATION: 'C:\Users\jackw\.moneydance\errlog.txt'

    MD CONFIG/PREFERENCES LOCATION: 'C:\Users\jackw\.moneydance\config.dict'

    -----

    BACKUPS - Save Daily: True

    BACKUPS - Keep no more than: 5 backups

    BACKUPS - Separate Backup Foldr: True

    BACKUPS - Backup Folder: 'C:\Users\jackw\.moneydance\archive\backups' (backup location exists)

    ..key - 'backup.location': 'C:\Users\jackw\.moneydance\archive\backups'

    ..key - 'backup.last_browsed': 'C:\Users\jackw\.moneydance\archive\backups'

    ..key - 'backup.last_saved': 'C:\Users\jackw\.moneydance\Jack's Extra Backups'

    ..key - '_default_backup_dir': '<not set>'

    -----

    System Default Locale Cty/Lang: 'CA' / 'en'

    MD Preference Locale Ctry/Lang: 'CA' / 'en'

    MD Locale Cty/Lang: 'CA' / 'en'

    Moneydance decimal point: '.'

    -----

    MD EXECUTION MODE: 2 (Normal)

    JVM - Available processor cores: 8

    JVM - Maximum memory possible: 1.1 GB

    JVM - Total memory allocated: 0.7 GB (used 0.5 GB / free 0.2 GB)

    -----------------------------------------------------

     

     

    Quote Load>INFO:08:28:44-main(Quote Load,HandleEventFileOpened) Debug level set to SUMM

    Quote Load>SUMM:08:28:44-main(Quote Load,HandleEventFileOpened) Using Standalone

    Quote Load>INFO:08:28:44-main(Quote Load,sendAuto) Check Auto without delay

    Quote Load>SUMM:08:28:44-AWT-EventQueue-0(Quote Load,invoke) Command checkauto

    Quote Load>INFO:08:28:44-AWT-EventQueue-0(Quote Load,sendAuto) now 08:28:44.509917500 next 2023-05-10T09:00

    ConnectionTask for Update_If_Needed done, result true

    toolbox:2023/05/10-08:29:43:

    -----------------------------------------------------

    JVM - Maximum memory possible: 1.1 GB

    JVM - Total memory allocated: 0.7 GB (used 0.3 GB / free 0.4 GB)

    -----------------------------------------------------

     

     

    Ran 1 of 2 MDP tasks @ Wed May 10 08:29:44 EDT 2023) forcedRefresh=false

     

    From: Stuart Beesley (Mr Toolbox) <[email blocked]>
    Sent: May 10, 2023 7:47 AM
    To: [email blocked]
    Subject: Re: Moneydance won't display on one account [Problems #90523]

     

    // Please reply above this line
    ==================================================

    From: Stuart Beesley (Mr Toolbox)

    Can you launch Help/Console.
    Click the clear button until it's empty.
    KEEP console open.
    Now install StockGlance again
    Whatever happens, tab back to the console..
    Copy the new output,
    post that here. Thanks

    On Wed, May 10 at 04:36 AM PDT, jwp.perry wrote:

    I have 7 extensions installed: Find and Replace, Import List, quote loader, quotes and exchange rates updater, security price entry, text import, Toolbox

     

    As you requested I installed StockGlance after you modified it. I tested it and it did not work for me. When I changed users there was a little flash and Moneydance disappeared completely and I could not use it. I had to reboot in order to run MD. Then I had to remove the StockGlance extension in order to use the MD application properly. That was last evening, I sent you the error file as it was this morning. So as it sits right now, the StockGlance ext has been removed so I can use MD

  23. 23 Posted by jwp.perry on 10 May, 2023 12:36 PM

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    With or without StockGlance installed

    From: Stuart Beesley (Mr Toolbox) <[email blocked]>
    Sent: May 10, 2023 8:34 AM
    To: [email blocked]
    Subject: Re: Moneydance won't display on one account [Problems #90523]

    // Please reply above this line
    ==================================================

    From: Stuart Beesley (Mr Toolbox)

    Keep console open. Now click on an account on the left side bar, then click
    back to the home page/summary screen.. Anything new in console?

    PS - best to reply by clicking the link and entering on this website rather
    than email reply...

    On Wed, May 10 at 05:01 AM PDT, jwp.perry wrote:

    Sorry, it is sleepy:

    trying to verify external module: stockglance

    trying to verify external module: stockglance

    initialized extension stockglance in 0.016 seconds

    toolbox:2023/05/10-07:59:03:

    -----------------------------------------------------

    JVM - Maximum memory possible: 1.1 GB

    JVM - Total memory allocated: 0.7 GB (used 0.4 GB / free 0.3 GB)

    -----------------------------------------------------

    Quote Load>INFO:08:00:00-pool-5-thread-1(Quote Load,sendAuto) Check Auto
    without delay

    Quote Load>SUMM:08:00:00-AWT-EventQueue-0(Quote Load,invoke) Command
    checkauto

    Quote Load>INFO:08:00:00-AWT-EventQueue-0(Quote Load,sendAuto) now
    08:00:00.750688100 next 2023-05-10T09:00

    From: Stuart Beesley (Mr Toolbox) <[email blocked]
    <mailto:[email blocked]> >

  24. 24 Posted by Stuart Beesley ... on 10 May, 2023 12:40 PM

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    With installed... It needs to be installed, so that it crashes, so that it updates console, so that the developer can find the problem.

  25. 25 Posted by Stuart Beesley ... on 10 May, 2023 12:41 PM

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    It's no good rebooting and then grabbing console as that wipes it out.. If you force quit MD, then BEFORE you launch MD again, you have to find errlog.txt on disk and upload that here (it's the same file that help/console uses)..

  26. 26 Posted by jwp.perry on 10 May, 2023 12:49 PM

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    After switching accounts with Stockglance installed

  27. 27 Posted by Jim Larus on 10 May, 2023 12:55 PM

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    OK, this is still the old version of the app. Sean integrated the pull
    request but apparently has not build and uploaded the new version of SG.

    Sorry to waste your time.

    Jim

    On Wed, 10 May 2023 at 14:36 jwp.perry <[email blocked]>
    wrote:

    > // Please reply above this line
    > ==================================================
    >
    > *From*: jwp.perry
    >
    > With or without StockGlance installed
    >
    > From: Stuart Beesley (Mr Toolbox) <[email blocked]>
    > Sent: May 10, 2023 8:34 AM
    > To: [email blocked]
    > Subject: Re: Moneydance won't display on one account [Problems #90523]
    >
    > // Please reply above this line
    > ==================================================
    >
    > From: Stuart Beesley (Mr Toolbox)
    >
    > Keep console open. Now click on an account on the left side bar, then
    > click
    > back to the home page/summary screen.. Anything new in console?
    >
    > PS - best to reply by clicking the link and entering on this website
    > rather
    > than email reply...
    >
    > On Wed, May 10 at 05:01 AM PDT, jwp.perry wrote:
    >
    > Sorry, it is sleepy:
    >
    > trying to verify external module: stockglance
    >
    > trying to verify external module: stockglance
    >
    > initialized extension stockglance in 0.016 seconds
    >
    > toolbox:2023/05/10-07:59:03:
    >
    > -----------------------------------------------------
    >
    > JVM - Maximum memory possible: 1.1 GB
    >
    > JVM - Total memory allocated: 0.7 GB (used 0.4 GB / free 0.3 GB)
    >
    > -----------------------------------------------------
    >
    > Quote Load>INFO:08:00:00-pool-5-thread-1(Quote Load,sendAuto) Check Auto
    > without delay
    >
    > Quote Load>SUMM:08:00:00-AWT-EventQueue-0(Quote Load,invoke) Command
    > checkauto
    >
    > Quote Load>INFO:08:00:00-AWT-EventQueue-0(Quote Load,sendAuto) now
    > 08:00:00.750688100 next 2023-05-10T09:00
    >

  28. 28 Posted by Jim Larus on 12 May, 2023 07:32 AM

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    StockGlance v12 is available (I just loaded it). Can you try the following steps:

    1. Start MD on your account (where it doesn't crash).
    2. Install StockGlance (or reinstall if installed). Make sure it says v. 12
    3. Open your wife's accounts.

    Let me know what happens. Thanks!

  29. 29 Posted by jwp.perry on 12 May, 2023 10:58 AM

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    All is well, seems the fix worked.

    Thanks Jack

    From: Jim Larus <[email blocked]>
    Sent: May 12, 2023 3:33 AM
    To: [email blocked]
    Subject: Re: Moneydance won't display on one account [Problems #90523]

    // Please reply above this line
    ==================================================

    From: Jim Larus

    StockGlance v12 is available (I just loaded it). Can you try the following
    steps:

    1. Start MD on your account (where it doesn't crash).
    2. Install StockGlance (or reinstall if installed). Make sure it says v. 12
    3. Open your wife's accounts.

    Let me know what happens. Thanks!

    On Wed, May 10 at 05:55 AM PDT, Jim Larus wrote:

    OK, this is still the old version of the app. Sean integrated the pull
    request but apparently has not build and uploaded the new version of SG.

    Sorry to waste your time.

    Jim

    On Wed, 10 May 2023 at 14:36 jwp.perry <[email blocked]
    <mailto:[email blocked]> >
    wrote:

    > // Please reply above this line
    > ==================================================
    >
    > *From*: jwp.perry
    >
    > With or without StockGlance installed
    >
    > From: Stuart Beesley (Mr Toolbox) <[email blocked]
    <mailto:[email blocked]> >

  30. 30 Posted by Jim Larus on 12 May, 2023 08:38 PM

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    Good to hear.

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