transition fr Quicken Premier to MoneyDance

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Orlando

04 Apr, 2022 01:31 AM

I am a Quicken user for well over 20 years and have grown increasingly dissatisfied with the product. I am evaluating various alternatives to Quicken Premier and Moneydance is on my radar. I run a Dell XPS with 10th gen i7 processor, my OS is Win11 64-bit and runs with 32GB of RAM. A couple of questions:
1. My Quicken qdf file is 137MB. Any sense the size of the Moneydance file when I transition all my data?
2. In the event I make a purchase, when I use my local instance of the software and open my local Moneydance data file, does my pc have to be connected to the Infinite Kind web site to use Moneydance? If I am not uploading or downloading to a financial institution does my pc have to be online at all when using Moneydance?
3. What access to the Moneydance application will Infinite Kind have to my pc after installation? Do I have to have an account to use the software?
4. After purchase of a perpetual license, what is the policy for future releases and upgrades?

Thanks for answering my questions, Orlando

  1. 1 Posted by dwg on 04 Apr, 2022 01:53 AM

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    I'm a fellow user.

    I will try to cover off on at least some of your questions

    1. I have never seen anything that estimates the size of Moneydance data set.

    2. Software is local, data is local unless you choose otherwise. The software does not need to connect to any Infinite Kind website unless you set it up to do so, for example configure the software to check for upgrades, want the use the optional Moneydance + for the download of transactions. Data will only be held in multiple places if you decide you want to sync between machines, even then the data is encrypted and the shared location is not on any Infinite Kind owned system.

    3. The Infinite Kind will have no access to your local installation of Moneydance

    4. If you purchase directly you receive a free upgrade to the next major release, after that there is a 50% discount. All point releases within a release are free if you have a license for that release.

    You can download and use Moneydance in trial mode to see if the software is suitable for you. The only limit is 100 manually entered, imported data is unlimited.

  2. 2 Posted by derekkent23 on 04 Apr, 2022 06:42 AM

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    I am not support staff, just a user.
    Hi Orlando

    dwg has answered your questions, so why not try it out for yourself for free.

    The downloaded version of Moneydance is a full working version with the only limit being a maximum of 100 manually entered transactions, with no time limit. Imported files from other financial programs and your bank have no limit on imports, provided that you do not confirm them. If you decided to purchase, you are sent a key by email that unlocks the 100-manual transaction limit. If after testing with this free trial version you purchase and change your mind see the 90 day money back guaranty at https://infinitekind.com/refunds

    For the future Moneydance never sunsets the version it releases. So, you don’t have to upgrade. If you won’t to upgrade the next version is free (say 2021 to 2022) and from then on you get a 50% discount. All upgrades within a version are free.

    Make sure you are running this build of Moneydance https://infinitekind.com/preview
    You need to use Quicken to export your data in a QIF file type. Ensure any closed account that have transfers to any open accounts are included in the QIF file, re-open these accounts if necessary. Export everything Quicken export will allow.

    Open the QIF file in a text editor. You are looking for the date format used in the file e.g., D25/03'2019 Day Month Year or D5/ 17'19 or D05/31/2017 Month Day Year etc. You will need this information later. If you get this wrong, it will be apparent as the dates in Moneydance will be all over the place and you will need to start again creating a new data set.

    QIF files were never meant for transferring data from one program to another, but it’s all that is available, you will need to spend time cleaning thing up when import is complete.

    When you first start Moneydance it opens in the Welcome window click on “Create a new account set”. If you have opened Moneydance before creating a new data set under FILE (MONEYDANCE on Mac) – NEW.
    Select “Create New File” (Data Set) and click NEXT. Type in an Account Set Name (Data Set) and click NEXT. Change Primary Currency (base currency), if required. File Type, leave at “Standard Account set”, click FINISH.

    In the Side Bar (list on left) under BANK deleted the two default Bank accounts, highlighting them in turn and using ACCOUNT – DELETE ACCOUNT.

    NOTE: If you have accounts with currencies that are not in your base currency (foreign currencies) perform the steps under NOTE 1 before importing your QIF file as follows.
    Drag and dropped the QIF file into the Side Bar (list on left).
    Wait for the Analyzing data window to close, this can take a few minutes. Nothing may appear to happen until the Import window opens.

    IMPORTANT: Checked all listed accounts are of the correct type and currency and changed if required.

    The “Date Format” should be set to the date format used in the QIF file not the date format you want to use in Moneydance. Select the correct Decimal Character. Later Builds of Moneydance may also include a Text Encoding dropdown, leave at default selection.

    Click Import and wait, the process can take some time. Again, nothing may appear to be happening until the process is complete, indicated by the Merging data window closing.

    IMPORTANT: When import is complete close and reopen Moneydance.

    Some or all of the accounts maybe hidden in the Side Bar, list on left. To make accounts visible click the “+” at the bottom of the Side Bar, then Advanced, then OK. If this does not help, try closing and re-opening Moneydance.

    Any accounts that are inactive (closed) should be made inactive. This will remove them from the Summary Page, two columns on the right, in the Account Section as well as from reports. There are two methods to accomplish this:
    1. By highlighting the account in the Side Bar and clicking ACCOUNT – EDIT ACCOUNT and ticking the inactive box – OK.
    2. Click TOOLS – ACCOUNTS and in the windows that opens double click on the Account Name and in the window that opens tick the inactive box - OK. In the list of Account names Accounts in lighter text are inactive. After making the required changes click DONE.

    To remove Accounts from the Side Bar, right click and select REMOVE FROM SIDE BAR.

    You can also click the “+” button at the bottom of the Side Bar, click Advance then use the Advance window to determine which items are visible in the Side Bar.

    On the Summary Page, two columns on right, if you have Investment Securities, they will be shown in a section STOCK PRICES. This may include securities in which you no longer have holdings. To remove these from the list double click on Security Name – EDIT and then untick SHOW ON SUMMARY PAGE box – OK - X

    Some QIF files don’t include initial account balances. If you think this is the case you can add initial balance to affected accounts as follows.
    Highlighting an account, then click ACCOUNT – EDIT ACCOUNT and add an Initial Balance.

    For investment accounts QIF file don’t always carry security prices other than buy sell prices, so investment account balances maybe wrong until you update with current security prices.

    Reminders are not included in QIF files.

    Now the real work starts to check balances and tidy thing up. This is especially true of investment accounts as not all action types are supported. But worth it in the end.

    For information on how to use Moneydance see https://infinitekind.tenderapp.com/kb

    Note 1: This section only applies if you have accounts with currencies that are not in your base currency. For these currencies ensure “Show on summary page” box is ticked under TOOLS – CURRENCIES – highlight subject currency and double click – EDIT.
    Note: QIF file do not contain exchange rates. To overcome this QIF file shortcoming the Currency/Security History window must have current and dated exchange rates filled in which cover the date range of transactions in non-base currency account. As well as manually adding exchange rates you can import CSV exchange rate files downloaded from sites on the web. Use IMPORT button in the Currency/Security History window. If you have investment account, their balances will probably be incorrect. This is due to the fact that the currency set in the security history windows will be in the Moneydance base currency. You can change to the correct security currency and provided exchange rates exist the values will be converted. As you do this re-calculation occurs, but I think the results should be correct. No guarantees the section will work correctly.

    Hope this helps.

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